Super Black Leo?

[scottprice]

So, with so many designer breeds out, how about acheiving a Super Black Albino w/ the Red Eyes? Frankly that'd probably be one of the most bad@ssed Leos on the market... any theorys on how to achieve this? My guess is low temps using some sort of line breed?:main_robin:

 

[paulnj]

can't be achieved realisticly, as red eyed would be albino. Albinos lack the ability to be black.

I agrre an animal like that would be amazing though.

 

[scottprice]

what about non albino, non red eye? Could the Super Black pigmentation be theoretically achieved? What could that ential? Lowered incubation temps? What about line breeding Mack Snows with lots of black? Or maybe naturals in a similar matter? Sounds achievable doesn't it?

 

[LeosForLess]

can't be achieved realisticly, as red eyed would be albino. Albinos lack the ability to be black.

I agrre an animal like that would be amazing though.

but enigmas can have red eyes with black pigment, like optical albinism.

 

[scottprice]

My point being, can we achieve the "Super Black"? there's gotta be a market for that, personally I'd love to own one.

 

[spykerherps]

There is something alot like what you are looking for or maybe dead on, the black Velvets and if you line breed with enigmas you could potently get Black velvets with red eyes. I think??? or not maybe the red eyed enigmas are just in the albino form. http://www.blackvelvets.com/

 

[godzillizard]

Trust me...there are far more of us working on this than will ever admit it...You'll see solid gray/black geckos with black eyes by next season for sure :main_lipsrsealed:

 

[supperl]

it´s the same as with a Baldy. If you can work for more yellow or tangerine you can also work on the Blackness^^

 

[moneymaker]

Something similar to this ? (obviously fake :main_yes: )

 

[Paco]

What about???

can't be achieved realisticly, as red eyed would be albino. Albinos lack the ability to be black.

I agrre an animal like that would be amazing though.

Paul what about Paradox Albino's??? I haven't seen any Paradox Albino Leos yet( or have I and can't remember,LOL), are there any? Some pics would be cool. There are starting to be more and more of these Paradox Albino's popping up all over the Boa and Ball community. I know the trait has not been reproduceable so far but many breeders hope to eventuly prove it out. Lets just say that some of the Paradox Ablino's are the most increadable animals I have seen. Very cool seeing a Lot of Black on an Albino or Bits and Parts of Albino's color and pattern on color morphs.

 

[scottprice]

Something similar to this ? (obviously fake :main_yes: )

I love it! that's exactly what I have in mind!

 

[moneymaker]

There are also paradox snow corn snakes too.

 

[paulnj]

time will tell if I get solid black geckos with black eyes..... next year hopefully. I will call them "Luke, I'm ya fatha"

 

[malt_geckos]

would be cool to see a solid brown gecko with red eyes. But a solid black with red is impossible. Solid black gecko with black eyes would be nifty.

 

[Halley]

I don't know what you would have to combine, but sooner or later, it will be out there. Maybe the needed components are not avaible to us yet. Maybe they are, but I would say it is achievable.

 

[scottprice]

time will tell if I get solid black geckos with black eyes..... next year hopefully. I will call them "Luke, I'm ya fatha"

So are you working on a melanistic yourself Paul? Have any pics?

 

[AntMan612]

I guess your idea came true:

http://www.geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=23277

 

[Halley]

now if they just had red eyes...

 

[brad.a.c]

That would be awsome if that were achievable some how. :main_yes:

 

[AntMan612]

I wish... I wish... I wish for a Super Blue Leopard Gecko...:rolleyes4: