super calcium drops?

[DKGecko]

when i was at the pet store buying lights to help the Dragons MBD he said after 10 days or somthing if he dont look any better to come back get a bottle of super calcium drops... u drop in there mouth one drop every day for 10 days... suppose help with calcium...

im not really sure on brand name i forgot trufuly... but was wondering if got Juv. Leopard gecko... not sure on weight but... its really small... would hurt to give them these drops... to help them grow bigger with calcium? he eats like 4 crickets every two days (dusted t-rex dust) i heard t rex dust is bad so im ordering some rep-cal soon. like tommarow. cuz i get paid.

THanks... Im trying get all the vitams and calcium supplys so i will have everything i need...

 

[vctkiller]

i don't think t-rex ibm dust is bad? I use it personally and my leopard gecko loves it

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

I'm not sure what 'super calcium drops' are, but I have used liquid calcium (NeoCalglucon) with a few of my geckos and was very successful.

 

[Gecko Ranch]

T-Rex is not bad, in fact, it is the state of the art supplement for leopard geckos right now. There's nothing wrong with using RepCal and Herptivite, the only problem with that is you have to buy two products and mix them together. Then, your mixture of the two does not stick to food items that well. It works, but has been surpassed by a better product, Calcium Plus, both in the way it works and what it is made of.

I have been testing Calcium Plus (same thing as T-Rex Leopard Gecko supplement) for some 4+ years along with many other large scale breeders. It passes with flying colors. I have used all the supplements worth their salt.This is the way I have always done things, test, make sure it works on my geckos (300+, 50+ species, 120 odd leo breeders), then offer to my customers.

I will ask Allen Repashy if I can post his article on Vitamin D, Calcium and Phosphorous from the Gecko Resource Forums to explain what is really state of the art right now in supplementation. In the meanwhile, you can go see the article there.

 

[DKGecko]

I'm not sure what 'super calcium drops' are, but I have used liquid calcium (NeoCalglucon) with a few of my geckos and was very successful.

i think that might be what it was caled... im not sure..

 

[Gecko Ranch]

Giving liquid calcium to young geckos to get them bigger will not work. Ever had Tums? Excess calcium is like giving them a big fizzy drink. Just use a proper supplement and save the liquid calcium for geckos experiencing MBD.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

Whlie I agree that proper supplementation and environmental conditions is the only way to prevent MBD in reptiles, once they have MBD the only way to stop the progression is with liquid calcium. NeoCalgugon (available from your vet) is calcium glubionate, not calcium carbonate, and is quckly absorbed into the reptiles blood system to raise serum levels back up to normal levels. It can be administered orally or by injection.

This is an excerpt from the VIN (Verterinary Information Network) on the subject, by Stephen J. Hernandez-Divers, BVetMed, CBiol, MIBiol, DZooMed, MRCVS, DACZM, RCVS Specialist in Zoo & Wildlife Medicine, Exotic Animal, Wildlife & Zoological Medicine, Department of Small Animal Medicine & Surgery, College of Veterinary Medicine, University of Georgia Athens, GA, USA:

Moderate to severe cases of MBD require the proper diet, temperatures, and light wavelengths as well as a more powerful calcium supplement than those found commercially. Oral administration of calcium glubionate (NeoCalglucon®, 1cc/kg PO bid prn) or injections of calcium lactate (Calphosan®, 250 mg/kg IV/IM, bid) or calcium gluconate (100 mg/kg IM qid prn) are generally prescribed by veterinarians. Mader (1993) reports faster recovery with calcitonin (Calcimar®, Miacalcin®, 50 IU/kg IM in front leg, repeated once a week for two weeks) when it is administered to iguanas who have been returned to normal serum calcium levels. Use of calcitonin before normal levels have been established, however, may cause hypocalcemic tetany and death. Mild cases, where the signs are felt or just barely visible, may successfully be treated by providing the proper environment and diet. In the case of diurnal lizards and chelonians, proper environment includes not only the proper temperature ranges and diet, but daily access to ultraviolet B wavelengths.

Another excerpt from the Merck Veterinary Manual:

Slow IV administration of 10% calcium gluconate is given to effect (0.5-1.5 mL/kg over 10-30 min; 5-20 mL is the usual dose). This usually results in rapid clinical improvement within 15 min. It is important to calculate the dosage of calcium based on elemental (available) calcium, because different products vary in the amount of calcium available. The dosage of elemental calcium for hypocalcemia is 5-15 mg/kg/hr. Calcium gluconate, 10%, contains 9.3 mg of elemental calcium/mL. Calcium chloride, 27%, contains 27.2 mg of elemental calcium/mL. Thus, for 10% calcium gluconate, the dosage is 0.5-1.5 mL/kg/hr, IV, and for 27% calcium chloride the dosage is 0.22-0.66 mL/kg/hr, IV. Calcium gluconate, as a 10% solution, is recommended because unlike calcium chloride, calcium gluconate extravasation is not caustic. Once the animal is stable, the dose of calcium gluconate needed for initial control of tetany may be diluted in an equal volume of normal (0.9%) saline and given SC, tid, to control clinical signs. (Calcium chloride cannot be given SC.) Alternatively, 5-15 mg of elemental calcium/kg/hr can be continued IV. This protocol effectively supports serum calcium concentrations while waiting for oral vitamin D and calcium therapy to have effect. Ideally, serum calcium concentration should be maintained >8 mg/dL. Serum calcium concentrations at <8 mg/dL indicate the need to increase the dose of parenteral calcium, whereas concentrations >9 mg/dL suggest that it be reduced. The aim of longterm therapy is to maintain the serum calcium concentration at mildly low to low-normal concentrations (8-9.5 mg/dL).

 

[Tommy13b]

Too Many nubmers and mesurements, makes my head wanna blow up!!