Super Cremesicle

[lytlesnake]

I bred my JMG Cremesicle male to my A&M SHTCT female, and I believe I've hatched a Super Hypo Mack Super Snow, or "Super Cremesicle". It has black eyes, but looks nothing like a Super Snow. It's wild looking. I'll post pics tomorrow.

This gecko almost didn't make it. I screwed up the temperature and humidity on a few egg containers early in the season. This one has a bend in it's tail, and a very small part of one eyelid missing. It also hatched out thin, and was still attached to the umbilicus and egg. It's been eating well and growing a bit though.

I feel absolutely terrible to have caused this gecko to have problems, but I think it's gonna be fine. The eyelid deformity looks pretty insignificant, and it seems to be doing quite well. It does have a slight balance problem, because when geckos are small the bent tail does affect their movement some.

So this one will be a pet. Hopefully I'll hatch another one. My Nature's Spirit incubator shipped today, so there should be no more problems with incubation. It's my fault though, I don't blame the hovabator. I'm an idiot!!

 

[Nigel4less]

Wait how could you hatch a Super out of a Mack x Normal? LOL

 

[lytlesnake]

Dude I don't know. Do both parents have to be mack? All I know is it has black eyes. It's weird.

 

[lytlesnake]

Huh? Maybe it's just a regular cremesicle then. Now that I think about it, my cremesicle male does have dark eyes.

 

[GroovyGeckos.com]

You`de have to have two Macks, so it is likely not a Super Snow. Some Macks hatch w/ very dark eyes, and then lighten up.

 

[Ccrashca069]

I am looking forward to your pics since I am starting my Creamsicle project in July. Just waiting for my quarintine days to finish up.

 

[Nigel4less]

Dude I don't know. Do both parents have to be mack? All I know is it has black eyes. It's weird.

Not trying to bash you I`m just ecstatic lol, a Black Eyed Cremesicle sounds very cool.

 

[lytlesnake]

Pics

I know, I know, the tail is badly bent. The gecko is doing well though. Honestly how thin she was concerned me more than the tail. You can kinda see that little indentation on her right eyelid. Doesn't seem to bother her. I gave her a drop of calcionate syrup last night to make sure she doesn't develop a deficiency.

I think she's getting ready to shed. Her color is washed out right now. The yellow is more vivid than you can see in these pics.

 

[Ccrashca069]

Not to bash you or anything but I would not breed her if she makes it. She has way to many deformaties. Please keep us updated on her condition as she grows.
I hope the other eggs from this project hatch with better results.

 

[paulnj]

Those eyes are awesome!

breed it? :main_lipsrsealed:

 

[lytlesnake]

Thanks Paul! Her eyes are about as black as they could be.

Not to bash you or anything but I would not breed her if she makes it. She has way to many deformaties. Please keep us updated on her condition as she grows.
I hope the other eggs from this project hatch with better results.

No worries. I have no intention of breeding this one. I'm quite confident I can make more of these, since my JMG Cremesicle is a top notch gecko and so is the A&M SHTCT. That's a $650 breeding pair, and the male has the dark eyes.

The first gecko I hatched from this pairing is a really nice Super Hypo and doing great, no deformities. This egg was one of a handful that swelled from too much humidity though. She hatched a couple weeks ago, so I'm pretty sure she's gonna make it at this point.

I think there's a difference between genetic deformities and ones that are caused by incubation problems. So if the gecko grows to be a healthy adult, it's my opinion that it could probably breed with no problem. Still, I won't be breeding this one. I'm just saying.....

 

[Ccrashca069]

I love her coloring. Looking forward to seeing the others when they hatch.

 

[lytlesnake]

Thanks John! I'll post some more pics after she sheds. Her colors are really faded in these pics. The Cremesicles are definitely a cool project. You're either gonna get Super Hypos or Cremesicles, and the Cremesicles are really neat looking. It's a shame I messed some eggs up, but I'm glad she made it!

 

[Gazz]

I know, I know, the tail is badly bent. The gecko is doing well though. Honestly how thin she was concerned me more than the tail. You can kinda see that little indentation on her right eyelid. Doesn't seem to bother her. I gave her a drop of calcionate syrup last night to make sure she doesn't develop a deficiency.

I think she's getting ready to shed. Her color is washed out right now. The yellow is more vivid than you can see in these pics.

Nice leo very possibly a mack snow super hypo do you have a fresh out the egg picture ?.Being mack or of mack line ?.I'd class the black eyes if it keeps them as false eclipse ontill proven other wise to be compatable with eclipse or not-(if ofcourse that's going to be possible giving the circumstances).However shame about the deformitys it's most likly due to incubator temp flux.Though i don't really like leo's to drop tail i think i'd try to encourage this one to drop right at the base of the tail after all it's not that hard with baby as we all know.As after that point the tail is given a second chance to regrow.And it's very likly it will grow back straght.The eye lid i'd check after each shed to provent eye infection from stuck shedding'etc but most usually seem to have no problems as long as they can blink.BREEDING?? me personally would ever contemplate it if i couldn't get it to tail drop and regrow stright.However the most important thing is the spine so deffo way before breeding i think a XRAY would be in order to check that the back/spine is stright coz if it bent this will lead to her becoming egg bound.Can't tell by the picture are the legs OK are any of them bowed/bent'etc.There for to the eye are the only problems the tail ans eye lid ??.

 

[KelliH]

and I believe I've hatched a Super Hypo Mack Super Snow, or "Super Cremesicle"

That is a Super Hypo Mack Snow, it is not a Super Snow. I hope you hatch more with no deformities, good luck.

 

[lytlesnake]

That is a Super Hypo Mack Snow, it is not a Super Snow. I hope you hatch more with no deformities, good luck.

Thanks Kelli. Yeah I think you'd have to breed two Cremesicles together to get a Super Hypo Super Snow. Jeff Jr. @ JMG told me last year that he hasn't bred two Cremesicles together yet. I was just wondering about this one because of the solid black eyes, but logically there's no way it could be a Super Cremesicle.

I don't expect any more deformities. That was an early season error on my part. Now I've got my sh!t together and a better incubator on the way too. What happened is that I had put the thermometer on the bottom grate of the Hovabator, but the temperature above that was hotter than the thermometer read. So I was overcooking the eggs. I then overcorrected by re-misting the vermiculite too much, which caused some eggs to swell from excessive humidity.

Though i don't really like leo's to drop tail i think i'd try to encourage this one to drop right at the base of the tail after all it's not that hard with baby as we all know.As after that point the tail is given a second chance to regrow.And it's very likly it will grow back straght.

It has occurred to me to try this, but maybe I'll wait until this one gets a little bigger and stronger. Then I guess I could try putting it in a tub with a secure lid and setting it on the floor while my dogs are in the house or something. The enigma I've got that dropped her tail likely did so when the agriculture department dog sniffed the box, so that seems to work!

 

[Ccrashca069]

PLease keep us or at leaste me posted on any updates. I am making my own Creamsicles this year with 3 or 4 different females and 3 different Males so I will have alot of bloodlines and will then breed the best from each pairing together. I am so looking forward to this project.

 

[Leopardgeckosunlimited]

I glad the little guy is doing better. Hope you hatch some more.

Henry