Tangerine Morph

[AntMan612]

I have seen pics of SHTCT leos ranging from high yellow's with a slight hint of orange to nearly carrot-colored bodies.

At what point can they be technically considered tangerines?

Also, wouldn't it be better to name the mostly yellow ones hypo-high yellows (HHY) and super-hypo-high yellows (SHHY)?

 

[OhioGecko]

I have a similiar question. The difference between SHTCT and SHCT? I've seen pics of both and some I can definately tell the difference and others seem the same. Is the basic difference the color when they hatch?

 

[AntMan612]

I have a similiar question. The difference between SHTCT and SHCT? I've seen pics of both and some I can definately tell the difference and others seem the same. Is the basic difference the color when they hatch?

Exactly. The question is when can you add the T in SHTCT.

I've also read that "Tangerine" is a line-bred morph and "High Yellow" is just a normal with more than normal yellow. Does that mean that High Yellows are not a separate morph from Normals? And, if you're putting any effort whatsoever into creating High Yellows, wouldn't that be essentially line-breeding?

 

[AntMan612]

Does any amount of orange on the body of an otherwise yellow leopard gecko make it a tangerine???

 

[thegeckoguy]

tangerines need to have some orange influence to be considered tangerines.

the difference between a SHTCT and a SHCT is the tangerine coloration. SHTCT is super hypo tangerine carrot tail. SHCT is super hypo carrot tail. SHTCT's are a gecko with little to no black spotting(super hypo), a tang color(tangerine), and at least 15-20% of their tails orange(carrot tail). SHCT is a gecko with little to no black spotting(super hypo) and at least 15-20% of their tail orange(carrot tail). The difference is the tang color.

High yellows are basically normals with more yellow than a normal. Some consider them morphs, others dont. But yes, if you took a pair of really bright yellow high yellows and bred them to get nicer high yellows, that would be line breeding.

 

[HepCatMoe]

hey geckoguy,

you write really well for a 13 year old. im impressed.

 

[Nigel4less]

Super HYPO Carrot-Tail

Super Hypo TANGERINE Carrot-Tail Baldy.

 

[thegeckoguy]

hey geckoguy,

you write really well for a 13 year old. im impressed.

lol thanks

 

[AntMan612]

Thanks for the clarification!

Wow, that means the full range of orange body coloration would be under the tang classification. Plus, that range appears to be expanding more and more toward the carrot range, too!

I agree; you write very well, geckoguy. You gave me the clear definition I was asking for.

 

[OhioGecko]

What would you consider this one?
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She is darker than the first pic above but lighter than the second. This is where I get confused. Both parents of this gecko was listed as tangerines.

 

[thegeckoguy]

What would you consider this one?
View attachment 15476

She is darker than the first pic above but lighter than the second. This is where I get confused. Both parents of this gecko was listed as tangerines.

A nice SHTCTB. The "B" is baldy

 

[Nigel4less]

You can see the Orange Highlights, in my opinion thats what defines a Tangerine from a Hypo.

 

[Ccrashca069]

She is a very nice SHTCTB nice find.

 

[AntMan612]

I understand this definition, but what do you think about the classification referred to as "normals with tang influence" discussed in this thread?

http://www.geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=22028

If orange coloration defines what a tang is, then wouldn't the offspring of a Normal x SHTCTB be a tang, too, as long as it inherits enough orange? Or does it have to be hypomelanistic and/or carrot tail, too, to be considered tang?

 

[thegeckoguy]

well normals with a tang influence generally dont have enough tang to be a tangerine. Some will get more tangy as they mature and can be called a tangerine.

 

[AntMan612]

well normals with a tang influence generally dont have enough tang to be a tangerine. Some will get more tangy as they mature and can be called a tangerine.

Well, I thought the Normal x SHTCTB cross could yield anything in between. That is, according to Steve Sykes definition at http://www.geckosetc.com/htm/genetics.htm

But, you've answered my question, anyway. They'll be tangs for all intents and purposes if the hatchlings are tangy enough, or Normals with Tang Influence if they're only slightly tangy.

Thanks

 

[Izzulogy]

what will happen if a tang influenced hi yellow x tang influenced hi yellow?

would the offspring haf lesser spots with brighter yellow? (bcoz of the tang influence)

coz i thinking of making something similar to jmg's hyper xanthics dat haf very2 bright fluorescent yellow..although hyper xanthics is the result of years of linebreeding hi yellow, but me myself got a hi yellow male that is similar to hyper xanthic (his parents are hi yellow x shtct)

 

[Izzulogy]

sorry..accidently double post..lol