Tremper strain

[LeopardLunatic]

does the tremper strain albinism mix with a patternless?

 

[paulnj]

has been for years

 

[Sunrise Reptile]

Yep, Paul's right. There's a Tremper Patternless Albino the same as there's a Las Vegas Patternless Albino.

But I don't recall having ever seen a Bell Patternless Albino. Anyone know anything about this or, if produced, what it looks like?

 

[LeopardLunatic]

ok thanks Paul i wasnt sure about it since I read on Steve Sykes site that with the Tremper strain only like 1/16 of the babies were actually albinos the rest were het. AS for bell patties ive heard some people were working a=on it and that was a long time ago have no clue if anyone has actually done it.

 

[paulnj]

from double het to double het the outcome would be one in 16 maybe, but many a breeder breeds tremper patties, though nowhere near as many as breed RWPA.

 

[LeopardLunatic]

i heard there is barely a difference between the 2 kinds other than the eyes is this true?

 

[paulnj]

I don't work with the tremper line, but I have seen a few. These look a bit lighter to me, or atleast those I have seen were. The eyes are definitely different on them , though it's a bit tough to differentiate at times.

 

[LeopardLunatic]

although since they are tremper wouldnt their color be affected by incubation temps perhaps thats why sometimes they seem lighter?

 

[paulnj]

got me, I just work here:main_laugh:

 

[LeopardLunatic]

srry lol just doing research before i start breeding trying to determine the best course of action

 

[paulnj]

research is good:main_thumbsup: I am not familiar with all the aspects of that morph.... hence my funny reply.

 

[LeopardLunatic]

now when you said double het to double het the hatch rate would be about 1 in 16 that would be normal het tremper and patty bred to a normal het tremper and patty right? If thats the case If i could get a hold of some patties het tremper my hatch rate should be significantly higher right? (when i say hatch rate i obviously mean hatch rate of Tremper patties) This also brings me to my next question i know some people possibly most people breed child to parent to get some morphs can you breed siblings together or will there be alot of mutations?

 

[paulnj]

from genetics calculator due to being too lazy to type it out

Homozygous patty, Het. tremper,
x
Homozygous patty, Het. tremper,

25% Homozygous patty,
50% Homozygous patty, Het. tremper,
25% Homozygous patty, Homozygous tremper


DOUBLE HETS...
Het. tremper, Het. patty,
x
Het. tremper, Het. patty,

6.25% WT
12.5% Het. patty,
6.25% Homozygous patty,
12.5% Het. tremper,
25% Het. tremper, Het. patty,
12.5% Het. tremper, Homozygous patty,
6.25% Homozygous tremper,
12.5% Homozygous tremper, Het. patty,
6.25% Homozygous tremper, Homozygous patty

Breeding siblings I do not do myself, but others may. breeding back to a parent is fine for a generation or two at most IMHO. That's called line breeding.... which can lead to INBREEDING issues if done too many generations.

 

[LeopardLunatic]

thank you so much for all your help i really appreciate it as soon as my male grows up maybe ill be able to post some of my lil babies