Very Confused

Roxotics

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Winnipeg, Manitoba
Hi everyone, I need some insight because I'm stumped. This season I bred my male RAPTOR to my Tremper Mack Snow het RAPTOR female. Unfortunately I only got two babies. Same clutch. The other clutch was infertile.

What should have hatched out:

25% tremper het raptor
25% trempr mack snow het raptor
25% raptor
25% mack snow raptor

What I got:

APTOR (het RAPTOR?)
and a reverse stripe tremper mack snow with black eclipse eyes (I think)

So I have no idea what's going on with the genetices. Neither one of the babies make sense to me. The only thing that I can think of is that the mother isn't really a het RAPTOR. But then how did one of the babies end up eclipse? and how can the eyes be black is she's a tremper?? I thought at first they were just a really dark red but I shined a light on them today and they're black.

Does anyone have any ideas or explanations for me?

Here are some pictures of parents and the babies. Unfortunately my camera seems to wash out the the yellows of they're colouring.

Mom
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Dad
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APTOR a bit younger
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APTOR as she is now (yellow washed out by camera)
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stripe baby a bit younger:
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here she is now, my camera flash washed out the pastel yellow colour
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Roxotics

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Winnipeg, Manitoba
at first I thought it was a mack raptor, but the eyes are black. A raptors eyes should be red to be classified as a raptor....right? If the baby is expressing the tremper gene (which it has to with this pairing) and the eclipse gene how can the eyes be black?

And I didn't think it was possible to get an APTOR out of the pairing. I was just wrong on that one.
 

fl_orchidslave

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St. Augustine, FL
Each egg has a 25% chance of being what you were had listed, not 25% of the babies would be those morphs. Check those eyes again with a LED penlight in different room lighting, I think you could find that they're very dark red.
 

Zeetrain

Zuricane Geckos
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Also with a morph like a raptor, since it is multiple recessive genes being displayed at once, you wont get all of them showing at once unless both parents are homozygous for all the genes. Since the mom is only heterozygous for raptor ( or heterozygous for eclipse, tremper albino, and patternless stripe) then it's possible that only one of the recessive genes will show.
 

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