Very early hatchling, help!!

desertgecko

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Hi, didn't know if this belongs here or egg incubation as it's about both.

I've just come home from work and found 2 females had laid eggs :) When I opened the incubator to put them in I've found a hatchling!! It's great but I'm panicking. It's waaay too early. It's from Tango, it's her 4th clutch this season but only the 1st thats been incubated in the correct set up. (the eggs kept drying out and I lost all other clutches as I got the set up wrong). She laid them on 02 may, and have been incubated at 29.4 constant. Can they really hatch this early at this temp?

I thought I had another 2 weeks at least. The hatchling is half out the egg, how long does it take the fully come out? Is it ok? How long should I leave him in the incubator for once he's out the egg? Ahhh so many questions, sorry I'm really panicking as it's too early.

Hope some can help!

Thanks, Claire
 

desertgecko

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Here's a pic. The 2 pinkie looking eggs next to it are from Pepper, they were laid on the 01 may. At first I thought it was hers but after double checking my diagram, it's definitely Tango's. Does he look ok?

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Airilith

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Hmmm so 84.9 degrees F for 34 days. That's really early. Any chance there was a mis-marked container?

You don't want to stress the little one. So put him/her back in the incubator and check in 30-60 mins (if you can wait that long).

Hopefully someone else will have more experience with this situation will chime in, as I've never dealt with such an early hatching before.
 

desertgecko

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Thanks for the reply. Those eggs pictured are all I've currently got and are the only ones that have been laid since I've redone the incubator. I didn't realise I need to have them in a sealed container to stop them drying out so lost the 9 previous clutches :( Peppers were the first ones in the tub and were laid on 01/05 and Tango's on 02/05. They always lay around the same time.

I've just checked on him again and he's moved a bit. I'm happy to leave him be but will he be ok in the incubator once hatched? I'm worried he'll suffocate lol I know I'm a noob at this. Can you tell it's my first leo hatchling!
 

GeckoJunkie

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They will be fine in the container inside the cooker. I leave me in the cooker when they are laid at night till the next morning just to kinda let them recover from the stress from hatching.
 

Golden Gate Geckos

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So far according to the photo, it looks well-formed, but a little pale. This is common for early babies. If it is too premature, it may have its umbilical cord and yolk sac still attached. It it looks lively, go ahead and put it on moist paper towel.

I'm not sure what substrate you are having your geckos lay their eggs in, but it looks particulate. I would stick with non-ingestible, moist peat. Also, I see some bad eggs in the vermiculite.. I would recommend taking them out so they will not give off ammonia fumes and/or cause mold to grow on the good eggs.

Good luck with the little wee one, and keep us posted!
 

desertgecko

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Thanks for the replies. He hatched out fully last night and I popped him in a cricket tub with some moist paper towel and kept him in the incubator over night. I'm surprised he made it as he seemed so weak.

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Golden Gate Geckos said:
So far according to the photo, it looks well-formed, but a little pale. This is common for early babies. If it is too premature, it may have its umbilical cord and yolk sac still attached. It it looks lively, go ahead and put it on moist paper towel.

Yes he is rather pale, I was expecting a black and yellow baby!!! Will the yellowness come through later do you think?

I don't think the umbilical cord and yolk sac was attached, I assume I would know when I see it. Although there was lots of goo still in the egg, is this normal or is this likely to have been the yolk sac?

Golden Gate Geckos said:
I'm not sure what substrate you are having your geckos lay their eggs in, but it looks particulate. I would stick with non-ingestible, moist peat. Also, I see some bad eggs in the vermiculite.. I would recommend taking them out so they will not give off ammonia fumes and/or cause mold to grow on the good eggs.

My egg laying boxes are filled with perlite but I need to add more boxes. The male the female is housed with seems to have taken over one box so I think thats why she laid in the sand. Thanks for the advice on the mouldy eggs, I will take them out. They were the last ones to be put in the incubator and last night was the first time I checked the eggs 4 days or so.

Hopefully this little one will be ok :) Do I need to keep him in the tub in the incubator until he has shed or can I move him now?

Thanks for all the help!

Claire
 

desertgecko

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Female is a tangerine and Male is a hypo. I don 't know what they're genetics are though, so I could get a surprise :) I'm expecting normals from them though, hopefully some hypo ones too!
 

Golden Gate Geckos

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If this is the case with the parents, the hatchling will develop more yellow coloration as it gets a little older. The xanthic pigment is one of the last things to develop in the fetus, and if it was early that would explain the paleness.
 

desertgecko

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Thanks for all you help guys but the little one didn't make it :( Was fine when I replied last but now has passed away. Maybe I stressed him too much when checking him? Or he was just too weak.

Thanks again all.
 

Kellyr

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I can't believe that happened.. he looked so good! I am very sorry for your loss, especially your first.. I hope the other eggs cheer you up when they come out.. hopefully not so soon.. :main_no:
 

GeckoGathering

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eggs hatching

I'm making a couple judgement calls from your egg photos.....are you aware you should keep the egg in the same upright position as it is laid? I did not see the eggs marked so I thought I would mention it. Not sure but one egg looked like it was caving in from the top. It has what appears to be vermiculite on the top of it. Since vermiculite's purpose is to grab on to and retain moisture......its possible that what on top could be sucking up moisture from your egg. Again, I'm trying to read things from a photo which are sometimes deceiving. Sorry for the loss and
hopes for more successful hatching from whats left. Take care. / HJ
 

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