Week 2 of impaction, help!

NekoBuns

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Missouri
About your leo:
- Sex : F
- Age & Weight : 7 weeks, 3 grams
- How long have you owned your leo : almost 3 weeks
- Where was he/she obtained : Pet store

A) Health/History
- How often do you handle your leo : every day
- Is your leo acting any different today? If so how does he/she normally act which differs from now.
She is acting normal, besides ignoring food
- Has he/she had any problems in the past, if so please describe.
She has had two enemas in the last week to treat imapaction
B) Fecals
- Describe (look any different than normal)
first week, normal. half of second week, runny. second half of second week to now, no poops.
- When was the last time he/she went
pee last seen 3 days ago. poop last seen 6 days ago.
C) Problem
- Please briefly describe the problem and how long it has been going on
Impaction, not eating still, so skinny

Housing:
A) Enclosure
- Size : 10 gallon
- Type : glass
- Type of substrate : carpet
- Hides, how many, what kind : 3. Moist, hot, cool
B) Heating
- Heat source : ceramic heat lamp, heating pad
- Cage temps : hot side 87(am) 74 (pm)
- Method of regulating heat source : Timer
- What are you using to measure your temps : 2 thermometers
- Do you have any lights : Only window light during daylight (window is about 10 feet away)
C) Cage mates
none

Describe Diet:
A) Typical diet
- What you're feeding (how often, how much)
Before impaction, pinhead crickets
After impaction, carnivore care liquid diet
- How are you feeding
Before impaction, tongs worked great
After impaction, medicine syringe (drops of liquid diet on nose)
B) Supplements (describe how often)
- What vitamin/minerals are you using (list brands)
Zoo med Calcium (in a dish, also a small amount added to liquid diet)
Calcium with D3 (I only dusted a single cricket twice in the first week)
Gut loaded crickets
Oxbow Carnivore Care is current liquid diet
- What are you gut loading food with
Flukers cricket food and drink

My leopard gecko has been on a liquid diet for a week now. She hates it and barely eats most nights. I’ll spend half an hour to an hour just dotting her nose and waiting for her to lick it because she refuses to lick it from the tube. I’ve even tried waiting until she licks her face and then putting the tube near her mouth. She knows and just turns her head. Doesn't even run away, just turns her head like a diva. I’ve also tried crickets again and she won’t even try to eat them. It does not matter if they are alive, dead, legless, all legs, tong fed, different colored tong fed, hand fed or anything. She has had two enemas for impaction in the last week but has not pooped or peed in days. She seems to have thrown up her carnivore care at least once in this last week. I am also doing 10 minute baths 3 times a day. After each bath I give her a belly rub for 5-10 minutes. Sometimes longer because she enjoys them. I also exercise her every day.
What I am also worried about was she had a dark black spot on her side that I (and the vet) assumed to be an organ. However, her whole back is now black as if it is spreading. Best case scenario, it is the impaction slowly moving through her. But it doesn’t seem likely for some reason, maybe I’m just being pessimistic.
I’ve had her stools checked (when she was pooping) and found no crypto, no bad organisms of that sort. The vet literally said she thought it was just a small case of impaction. But it seems to have become more. She is hardly eating at all and I fear that after a week of partially eating a couple of drops of carnivore care each day, she will die soon. Please help.
 

acpart

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welcome to GF. I'm sorry you're having so much trouble with the gecko. I would wonder if she's really impacted or if she's not pooping because she's not eating. I know that Carnivore Care can be a lifesaver for some geckos, but I feel if at all possible that if there's any way a gecko can stay on solid food, it's best in the long run. I have to say that as a breeder, I would rarely sell a gecko hatchling under 15 grams and would never sell one at a 3 grams. I have hatchlings that weigh more than that at hatching. I do kind of wonder if there was a problem with this gecko from the beginning if it's really 7 weeks old and only 3 grams.
Here's what I would recommend:

offer 1/4" crickets. I feel that pinhead crickets are way too small for even a newly hatched leopard gecko. You may want to try mealworms as well

check that the 87 degrees you mention is the floor temperature as measured with a digital thermometer with a probe or a laser temp gun. If it's 87 in the air, it's way too hot and you may be dehydrating the gecko. I would also question whether you need both a heat mat and a heat lamp. It may be too much.

Consider stopping all the bathing and treating for a few days (except for the carnivore care if you're going to do that). If all that hasn't changed the impaction, I would question whether there really is an impaction, and all the handling and intervention may be a source of stress that is further affecting her eating.

I hope this gecko improves and does well, but I worry that a 3-gram gecko that's already been through the stresses of a pet store and shipping does not have a good prognosis. If for some reason this gecko doesn't survive, I hope you'll consider trying again with another and will get it from a reputable breeder as opposed to a pet store.

Aliza
 

NekoBuns

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Location
Missouri
Thank you very much for your reply. And 3 grams was a mistake on my part, she's a full 5 grams, not that it is huge difference.
We are very positive it is impaction now (after seeing the vet again), the only thing we haven't done is an xray so far and that's because the vet is very certain it is impaction. You can see the impaction through her belly and back skin :c its all black. I have stopped handling her except one bath and one feeding a day, and will try pieces of crickets tonight. Thank you for your help!
 

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