Well, I can't look at the empty terrarium...

Haroldo

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moosassah said:
Looking way down the road (like 2008) but,

Is the tank size (12x12x18 exoterra) appropriate for 2 cresteds or only 1?
Is it still appropriate once they are full grown?

Fine for raising two young ciliatus. But as soon as they are sexually onset, fighting will likely erupt. My ciliatus were individually housed in 18g [or so] screen cages. In a few months, they'll be moving into even more spacies living arrangments. IMO, that size exo-terra, is even too small for ONE adult.
-Harold
 

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plecoperson said:
I considered diet, cost, and general appealing-to-me-ness from the suggested species.

The short list, and please be bold in saying they might not be a good fit for our enclosure or because of their difficulty level.

Cat gecko A. felinus
Crested gecko R. ciliatus
Gargoyle gecko R. auriculatus
Fan footed gecko P. hasselquistii
and Pareodura androyenesis
I heart uroplatus-what's not to like-but think they might be beyond my reach care-wise and cost-wise.

I think there's quite a range of prices here, from $15 for a fan-footed to maybe $100 at the top. We have plenty of small crickets, fruit flies and mealworms. Gut-loader, calcium powder and Repti-Vite. I realize that the crested and gargoyle would also require delicious crested gecko diet and fruit. We are willing and able to provide whatever else a particular gecko would need to do well in our enclosure, of course.

Feedback would be very much appreciated--thank you all for your help, both with our previous little guy and in our search for a new gecko.

A. felinus is a fairly delicate sp. Either incredibly well-designed vivarium to keep up humidity regimen or ALOT of time doing so. Semi-arboreal, sensitive to water quality, prone to renal failure if not kept correctly if for a short time (i.e. tap water or overdosing with calcium/vitamin supplements). Marcus Quesada is one of the foremost experts on Malaysian geckos, get in touch with him if you do want to go that route.

R. ciliatus and auriculatus are fairly easy going geckos. Pretty good geckos for any experience level with auriculatus probably being the more "difficult". Can be fed EXCLUSIVELY on Allen Repashy's various powdered diets.

P. androyenesis are not particularly difficult, but delicate in the sense they're really small geckos--mine are about 3". Won't fair well in overly large vivariums due to their inability to locate food in such a space.

As far as prices go, here's the current market rundown...

A. felinus: $100 (fresh WC, Cameroon Higlands) adults (each)->$150 c.b. hatchling-> $650 (fresh WC Silver-Eyed) pair adults -> even more for c.b. silver-eyed

R. ciliatus: free-$35 (bucksking tailess males)->$400+ outstanding specimens

R. auriculatus: $65 (reticulated "plain" unsexed)->$1000 for Red-striped Adult

P. hasselquistii: Not sure, not a huge market for these guys...infrequently available...imports mostly, c.b. rare...

P. androyenesis: $35 each for W.C. adult or c.b. hatchling or so...

Uroplatus sp.: Ranging from $75 or so for ebenaui each -> $110 for fimbriatus and so on...w.c. that is...

In any case, all are wicked cool gecko sp. Hope you have fun picking up/out your new critter.
-Harold
 
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plecoperson

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Harold, thanks for the breakdown. I think part of the reason (at least) we lost the last one is that the vivarium was too large for him. Jeremy has kindly recommended a few breeders, and we are officially after a crested or a gargoyle! Wheee!

Scott/Nikki (I think I saw a post indicating it's probly Scott?): The show is the 14th. You should go. Maybe get a crested gecko. But not the one we want. Not that one. :)

Plus, we have that 20 gallon tank doing nothing, so lotsa space down the road.
 

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