What causes death at hatching?

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okapi

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Yesterday I got off work and checked my incubator for hatchlings. I had two eggs that I had assumed would be hatching anyday: striped AFT X striped AFT, and Giant albino het raptor X murphy patternless. I checked the murphy patternless egg container first and the egg hadnt hatched. Then as I started looking for the container marked AFT I saw what looked like a wax worm next to one of my BB X 66% het BB eggs. Of coarse stupid me imediatly thought wax worm instead of blizzard hatchling tail :main_rolleyes: So I grabbed that container and opened it up and found a dead blizzard het albino laying right next to its egg :( The yoke was still attached to her belly. She got all the way out of the egg, then died right next to it. The tail, head and feet were all white, and the body from the back of the head to the base of the tail was yellow. I opened one of the eyes and took a picture of them with macro to find out if the hatchling was a blizzard or a blazing. the eyes were normal colored. The only good thing about this is I now know that "spots" is at least het blizzard, and is still 66% het tremper. I got all my 66% hets from a friend who bought them from VMS. I would rather hatch out pure white geckos, but VMS is breeding for a buttery yellow blazing by outcrossing into their high yellow line. So I guess all my blazings will be yellow bodyed. The day wasnt a complete loss. After I got done looking at my dead hatchling I went back to the incubator and saw a nose sticking out of my AFT egg... I got to watch the little speed demon come shooting out of his egg in like 2 seconds flat :main_thumbsup: I even took pictures :D
 
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monkeygirl

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aww sorry that one died but at least you got to witness the other one coming out! that must of been cool, iv only seen mine when it was almost fully out except its feet and tail :)
 
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okapi

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Murphy patternless AKA leucistic AKA patty

in his book RT says to call them murphy patternless in honor of Pat Murphy (the first breeder to hatch them) and also to avoid confusion with the other patternless traits (like his aptors I would assume :main_rolleyes: )

EDIT: BTW, the other egg in the dead blizzard clutch hatched at 1:40pm today. She is also a blizzard. A spunky little thing too. I cant get a good look at her eyes, but she has less yellow than her dead sibbling and has a pinker body color... so im keeping my fingers crossed. My het raptor X patty egg still hasnt done anything... And these blizzard eggs were laid after that one
 
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okapi

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WARNING, IF YOU DONT WANT TO SEE DEAD HATCHLING, SKIP THE BOTTEM HALF OF THIS POST (AFTER THE ROW OF SAD FACES)
Live baby from BB X 66% het clutch:
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AFT shooting out of egg:
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okapi

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Golden Gate Geckos said:
RT is actually giving credit to the person who first developed the morph... a guy named Murphy!

Well, the book also goes on to say that RT got him into the leo breeding hobby lol. I wonder why RT doesnt work with murphy patternless? Youd think he would want to make murphy patternless eclipsed albinos as well, since hes also doing it with blizzards now. It would make sense if he bred the eclipse gene into every patternless morph.
 

robin

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sometimes hatchlings dont have you can do everything right and still get dead ones. but there are also many reasons that could be associated with it as well. so many possibilities.
the aft is as cute as he can be and the other one looks very healthy and is beautiful as well :)

on the note of names like the murphy patternless and the tremper albino. RT will give credit to himself and a friend but not the originators of the bell strain (florida strain) and the rainwater strain (law vegas strain) ... what a crock of pooey
 

robin

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i disagree. yes he is a crooked dirtball scumbag but he was the originator of his line of albino. and actually yes a lot of people still refer to rainwater albinos as rainwater albino. like i said because of what ron did should we refer to them as "texas albinos"? he wasnt quite honest n stuff BUT eh, he is the "leopardgecko god"
 
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okapi

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ByRandom said:
... No body gives credit to Tim Rainwater... for good reason.

Ive always heard him refered to as a bad guy... what did he do?
 

LeosForLess

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okapi said:
Ive always heard him refered to as a bad guy... what did he do?
He sold normals as 100% hets to ppl and then sold them without giving them at all. Thats what ive heard.
 

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Sorry to hear that you lost the first hatchling, but congrats on the other 2! They're little cuties! Look nice and healthy! :main_thumbsup:
 

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