Whats my chances!?!?

[VampyreByte]

Just wondering what my chances would be of getting Creamsicles from my Sunglow Female x Bold Mack Snow Male.

She has layed 2 eggs so far, 1 didn't last. Hope she lays more, its been 2.5 weeks since she layed.

Thanks.

 

[GeckoCrossing]

Well, a Creamsicle is a SHTCT Mack Snow.

From your pairing you're going to get
50% Mack Snow het Albino (whatever strain your sunglow is)
50% Normals het Albino (whatever strain your sunglow is)

Both will have varying amounts of carrot tail and hypo/super hypo, depending on the quality of your Sunglow. And some will have some bold markings. Takes at least a few generations to get good Creamsicles.

 

[Fencer04]

The Dreamsickle is made of Enigma, Mack Snow, Tremper Albino and Eclipse.
You could never get Dreamsickles without adding another breeder to the mix at some point. Your best bet would be to

GeckoCrossing is correct. From his results:
50% Mack Snow het Albino
50% Normals het Albino

You would breed the Mack Snow het Albino to a NOVA to get:
12.5% Enigma HET Albino, Eclipse
12.5% Mack Snow Albino HET Eclipse
12.5% Mack Snow Enigma HET Albino, Eclipse
12.5% Mack Snow HET Albino, Eclipse
12.5% Albino Enigma HET Eclipse
12.5% Albino HET Eclipse
12.5% Albino Mack Snow Enigma HET Eclipse
12.5% Wild Type HET Albino, Eclipse

In the third generation you could take Albino Mack Snow Enigma HET Eclipse and breed to Mack Snow Albino HET Eclipse to get:
6.25% Dreamsickle
6.25% Mack Snow Albino
12.5% Mack Snow Albino HET Eclipse
6.25% Mack Snow RAPTOR
3.125% Nova
3.125% RAPTOR
3.125% Super Nova
3.125% Super RAPTOR
3.125% Super Snow Albino
3.125% Super Snow Albino Enigma
6.25% Super Snow Albino Enigma HET Eclipse
6.25% Super Snow Albino (Tremper) HET Eclipse
3.125% Albino
3.125% Albino Enigma
6.25% Albino Enigma HET Eclipse
6.25% Albino HET Eclipse
6.25% Albino Mack Snow Enigma
12.5% Albino Mack Snow Enigma HET Eclipse

It would be faster to breed your Sunglow to a NOVA and breed back from there but I prefer the variety you get from my approach.

Check out ReptileCalculator.com. You can try different scenarios and learn a little about how everything works.

 

[justindh1]

The Dreamsickle is made of Enigma, Mack Snow, Tremper Albino and Eclipse.
You could never get Dreamsickles without adding another breeder to the mix at some point.

That would be correct if he is trying to produce Dreamsicles but he is wanting Creamsicles.

In my honest opinion it will take someone at least 3 years to make anything that should be considered a Creamsicle even from a SHTCT X Hypo snow pairing. The Mack Snow gene really seems to deintensify any orange. In order to get a Super Hypo Snow with large amounts of tangerine, line breeding is the only way to go and is something you have to be really dedicated to. There's no shortcuts really when it comes line breeding except with high quality animals. In this case to me, your really just continuing someone else's line breeding.

The pairing that the OP has stated is really going to take even longer and is really opposing to the genetics the parents have. The bold mack snow will more than likely take generations to get rid of the spots and really shouldn't be used for the purpose to get Creamsicles. To me, it should be used to produce something will bold spots or stripes.

 

[Fencer04]

Holy misread Batman, sorry about that.

 

[ForTozs]

I would guess F2 could give you some. If you were lucky enough to end up with 2 snow hypo babies, crossing those back could give you creamsicles. But I think creamsicle is really a bit more complicated than snow X SHTCTB. I think its really a snow X SHTCTB line-breeding project. JMG has some nice ones if you go to his website he might have more information on them.

 

[VampyreByte]

Thanks a ton guys.