Where's peoples line when does a reducded spotted leo become a standed hypo.

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Gazz

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When you breed a leo with reducded spotting What make it a hypo and not a reducded spotted normal & vice-versa.I know some people use the 7 spot rule :main_lipsrsealed: I can't really agree with that one.7 spots a hypo but 9 spot is a reducded normal doesn't seem clean cut enough to me :main_huh: .
 

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Gazz, if I remember correctly, we already had a very heated thread on this subject awhile back... and you were quite vocal about your opinions compared to the old-school standards that many of us posted.

So, I am reluctant to go there again. Maybe you could do a search and find that thread?
 

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Gazz said:
When you breed a leo with reducded spotting What make it a hypo and not a reducded spotted normal & vice-versa.I know some people use the 7 spot rule :main_lipsrsealed: I can't really agree with that one.7 spots a hypo but 9 spot is a reducded normal doesn't seem clean cut enough to me :main_huh: .
Surely you can get any more clean cut than having an exact cut-off point?
 

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cjreptiles said:
Surely you can get any more clean cut than having an exact cut-off point?

Where though is that exact cut-off point ?? here's what i mean i know that no if's,buts,or maybes that [A] in the diergram is a HYPO and that [D] is a reducded spotted normal and that [E] is a normal.Is more like the [B's] & [C's] i'm on about the boarder line ones.
 

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When i change the batteries in my camera i will show you guys pics of my "hypos".

I dont know if you guys saw, but Alberto had pictures in his ad of "1.1 100% falacotious X 100% falacotious wild caught" and one was a tangerine hypo. There was no hypo gene involved(correct me if im wrong Alberto) so i almost wonder if some of what we are calling hypo are really what they look like in the wild. The ad was on kingsnake, so it might be back up later on.
 

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where do you think the line bred anmd well even ray hine line hypo came from? the wild. they have just been bred to refine the amount of hyponess/reducing pattern and bred or more and more yellow then or orange and so on. yeah from wild geckos or geckos that exhibited these traits after several generations.
 

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robin said:
where do you think the line bred anmd well even ray hine line hypo came from? the wild. they have just been bred to refine the amount of hyponess/reducing pattern and bred or more and more yellow then or orange and so on. yeah from wild geckos or geckos that exhibited these traits after several generations.
I mean i just thought they came from the Afghanicus, i didnt know that falacotious were that hypo.


anyway i got a pic of my male who is a month old i think and doesnt pass the 7 spot test imagine if he looked like this at a year old and wasnt on track to go super
EDIT: forgot to add, i dont kno what is with the combined spots and such, i think it should just be up to the breeder to call it whatever

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lil sis just for kicks
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I would not call that gecko a 'hypo'.

Maybe not so if it not a hypo strain what is it IYO ? .By KelliH labeling she would give it a hypo.That's why it's such a confusing area.Look at the first two in the hypo area both have than 7 or 10 spots witch ever one it is.

http://www.hisss.net/morphs.shtml
 

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Gazz said:
Maybe not so if it not a hypo strain what is it IYO ? .By KelliH labeling she would give it a hypo.That's why it's such a confusing area.Look at the first two in the hypo area both have than 7 or 10 spots witch ever one it is.

http://www.hisss.net/morphs.shtml
Look for albertos ad, that one looks similar to one of his that had 100% w/c parents.
 

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LeosForLess said:
When i change the batteries in my camera i will show you guys pics of my "hypos".

I dont know if you guys saw, but Alberto had pictures in his ad of "1.1 100% falacotious X 100% falacotious wild caught" and one was a tangerine hypo. There was no hypo gene involved(correct me if im wrong Alberto) so i almost wonder if some of what we are calling hypo are really what they look like in the wild. The ad was on kingsnake, so it might be back up later on.

Dude, I think you need glasses, :main_robin: :main_robin: :main_robin: . Yes you are very wrong. Here is a copy of my add:

This is the first offering of our fasciolatus crosses, these are young 1.1 visually sexable. They are a cross from a pure fasciolatus and a wild looking leopard gecko. If you hope to make your bloodlines stronger this is the time. The male is 16 gr. and the female 17 gr.
The pair is $300 + shipping.
Alberto

It had not hypo wording in it and wild caught, is wild looking.
Alberto
 

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LeosForLess said:
Look for albertos ad, that one looks similar to one of his that had 100% w/c parents.

Just coz one like it came out of WC pair means nothing ?.Tremper albino came out of WC leo's they normals just coz they came from WC leo's,blizzards came out of WC leo's they normals just coz they came from WC leo's' etc'etc.All morph pop out from some where most from WC stock.We have meny hypo types in captivily and once in a while they do and maybe now running around in the wild does make them normal if there a one off in the wild.
 

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Paul, I would consider both of those geckos 'hypos".

Gazz, reading your posts makes my eyes bleed! It would be great if you used proper punctuation and stopped the run-on sentences without spaces. Half the time I just skim over your posts because they are incoherent.
 

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Golden Gate Geckos said:
Paul, I would consider both of those geckos 'hypos".

Sorry but please inlighten me as to why you consider A&M's as hypo strain ???:main_huh: .
http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=10&de=500346

Golden Gate Geckos said:
I would not call that gecko a 'hypo'.

But this one you would NOT ??? consider a hypo strain.The differance is what exactly ???.You seeing something i can't ????.
http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/index.php?photo=316952
 

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spellcheck and less punctuation









Edit: Robin can't spell and asked me to fix a word for better clarity.
 
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