Yay for misrepresentation...

[Matthew David]

Proving is fun because you never know what youre gonna get best thing to do is prove to non TUG lines - maybe even remove the het by 3rd generation although it will take time it can be done

 

[Herpluver]

I've actually never really done this before as I've usually only dealt with homozygous. So it's going to be a brand new experience! Any suggestions for a newbie?

 

[Matthew David]

Well firstly what adults with possible hets do you have so far ?

 

[Herpluver]

So far I have a (supposed) TUG Snow female and a Mack Snow Enigma male. They both are 100% het albino, since they produced those babies in the pics. I just don't know which strain of albino yet. Then I have a SHTCTB male that is 100% het tremper and a Tangerine Enigma female that is 100% Het Bell.

 

[Matthew David]

So far I have a (supposed) TUG Snow female and a Mack Snow Enigma male. They both are 100% het albino, since they produced those babies in the pics. I just don't know which strain of albino yet. Then I have a SHTCTB male that is 100% het tremper and a Tangerine Enigma female that is 100% Het Bell.

Post some eye pics of the albinos, we'll be able to identify them for you

 

[stager]

Easier to by a gecko from a reliable breeder then get stuck with a lot of mutts IMO

 

[Herpluver]

Yes, it is easier. Although if everyone based their purchases off of that logic, it gives those trying to get started or those who aren't as well known, absolutely zero chance to make it. I don't really find that fair to anyone with integrity who wants to get involved in our hobby. Also, if that was 100% true, then the TUG geckos I have that are the current problem here, wouldn't be a problem. I received a response back from the seller, and she said she purchased them directly from TUG and they were never advertised as het either. I have her attempting to contact them, but they've yet to respond to her. We shall see.

 

[Matthew David]

Yes, it is easier. Although if everyone based their purchases off of that logic, it gives those trying to get started or those who aren't as well known, absolutely zero chance to make it. I don't really find that fair to anyone with integrity who wants to get involved in our hobby. Also, if that was 100% true, then the TUG geckos I have that are the current problem here, wouldn't be a problem. I received a response back from the seller, and she said she purchased them directly from TUG and they were never advertised as het either. I have her attempting to contact them, but they've yet to respond to her. We shall see.

You're not the only one who has hit this issue lately I can tell you that much - There is a seller of TUG near me who has ceased all TUG sales because of this discovery

 

[Herpluver]

Post some eye pics of the albinos, we'll be able to identify them for you

Sorry for the delay on the eye pics. I had a bit of a busy weekend. Hopefully this shot helps, its the best I could do with being a complete newbie with my camera.



I have no clue how to take closer pics. I have a Canon Digital Rebel T3 that my wife bought me for our anniversary 2 years ago, but have yet to learn all of its ins and outs. Let me know if this is good enough.

 

[Matthew David]

I'm going to call tremper because unless the parents were het radar it can't be bell

 

[Herpluver]

I'm going to call tremper because unless the parents were het radar it can't be bell

I have no clue what the parents could have been heterozygous for. With the seller saying she bought them both from TUG, I had no idea what was what. I also didn't know the albino's well enough to be able to figure it out.

Would you say with 100% certainty that they are Trempers? I tried incubating most of my eggs this year between 82-84, so I am hoping to be female heavy. If so I can breed these girls later on to my SHTCTB 100% Het Tremper male. That is, if his genetics are proper also.

 

[Matthew David]

As far as I'm aware they never crossed with radar but have with tremper so that's what id go with based on probability - can you show a pic if the babies body ?

 

[Herpluver]

Sure thing, is this a good enough shot? I can get better if need be.

 

[Matthew David]

I'm gonna stick with tremper = what were the parents as I am trying to guess the morph hah as it could be one of a few with that appearence

 

[Herpluver]

The female was supposed to be a TUG Snow, even though she looks surprisingly like my Mack Snow female. The male was a Mack Snow Enigma. Both supposedly het for nothing.