you've got to be kidding!

[Perefalcon]

ok, I know that a few people here will remember my situation last year when I ended up having crypto in my collection. Well, out of my forgiving nature I went back to that pet store today and the owner pulled me aside and told me that the reason that my geckos died was that it had flavovirus (sp). He even told me that the black spot on the belly of the gecko was pooled blood!! I tried to explain to him that the spot was an organ and he told me that he was an MD and knew what he was talking about. He is blaming my feeder supplier (who I have never had health issues from) and saying that they are teh cause of multiple reptile deaths due to that virus infecting the crickets.

Sorry for my little rant.....but this just makes me soooo mad! nothing against doctors....but being an MD does not always mean you can diagnose things that a vet can.

 

[GeckoMandi]

Well I wouldn't even listen to anyone other than a vet when it came to the health of my reptiles ya know what I mean? That doesn't even sound right, sounds like an organ to me. But I'm not vet or MD lol.

But the I have heard of geckos getting sick by infected feeders.

 

[Perefalcon]

yeah, but I had the stainfast test done and it had come back positive on the one I got from his store. poor little thing, it was puking up it's own shed, not eating and all...it died the day after it went to the vet...it was a nightmare. I'm sure felicia or marcia remember that

 

[trizzypballr]

Are you trying to persue for losses from the petstore or something like that? Is that possible to do? Being an MD doesnt mean you were trained to diagnose animals, why would this guy even try to fake that? Id show him your crypto results.....

 

[GeckoMandi]

yeah, but I had the stainfast test done and it had come back positive on the one I got from his store. poor little thing, it was puking up it's own shed, not eating and all...it died the day after it went to the vet...it was a nightmare. I'm sure felicia or marcia remember that

Aww that's awful!

Well still being an MD doesn't mean squat, heck it's even hard to find a GOOD herp vet sometimes they act like they but have no clue and I mean the "regular" vets trying to diagnose the reptiles. I've went through a couple of those.

 

[robin]

ok, I know that a few people here will remember my situation last year when I ended up having crypto in my collection. Well, out of my forgiving nature I went back to that pet store today and the owner pulled me aside and told me that the reason that my geckos died was that it had flavovirus (sp). He even told me that the black spot on the belly of the gecko was pooled blood!! I tried to explain to him that the spot was an organ and he told me that he was an MD and knew what he was talking about. He is blaming my feeder supplier (who I have never had health issues from) and saying that they are teh cause of multiple reptile deaths due to that virus infecting the crickets.

Sorry for my little rant.....but this just makes me soooo mad! nothing against doctors....but being an MD does not always mean you can diagnose things that a vet can.

ok crypto is a serious thing and IF you geckos had it why would you even think of going back there to buy anything. forgiving or not crypto is very serious and not easy to get rid of unless you have everything put down and start over from scratch. new geckos, new tanks and racks, water and feed bowls ect.

 

[eyelids]

I'm surprised you'd go back there...

 

[Perefalcon]

I wanted to go back to see if they'd cleaned up their act...I was wrong...I would never buy something from them ever again. I was quite suprised he even remembered me...but he still doesn't remember how to take care of reptiles...those poor leos, cresties, chameleons, snakes and others

no I wasn't looking to recoup my losses, he was the one who brought it up...I did however talk to my feeder supplier...they're gonna look into suing him for defamation of character since he said to my face the exact name of the place.

He's a very arrogant person...this is the kind of place that has kittens for $70 that aren't a registered animal and they sell puppies too....can you say puppy mill supporter

 

[Perefalcon]

ok crypto is a serious thing and IF you geckos had it why would you even think of going back there to buy anything. forgiving or not crypto is very serious and not easy to get rid of unless you have everything put down and start over from scratch. new geckos, new tanks and racks, water and feed bowls ect.

yeah I did have to start all over again last year...I was stubborn about it at first, but a few equally stubborn people got it through my thick skull

 

[robin]

He's a very arrogant person...this is the kind of place that has kittens for $70 that aren't a registered animal and they sell puppies too....can you say puppy mill supporter

there are a lot of places that sell $70 unregistered kittens and dogs. generally they get them from a rescue or someone brings in a litter (sometimes mutts and sometimes pure breds with no papers) and they buy them off of them. they charge a higher amount of money to keep anyone from just buying a cute $30 dollar kitten or puppy and not thinking before they buy. registered animals can cost anywhere from $100 to many thousands of dollars depending on the seller, the rarity of the animal, bloodlines etc.
so just because he sells $70 dollar unregistered puppies and kittens doesn't mean he is a puppy mill supporter

 

[MichaelJ]

I agree with Robin and would of never gone back to that Petshop and for that matter I will never go to one in the first place..

I've never had a case of crypto but I had some very sick geckos and won't take the chance.. I also have an awesome herp vet that I can call even at night.

 

[Perefalcon]

oh, robin the puppies are registered...the kittens aren't...granted some places get them from a shelter, but i'm not so sure that he's that kind of guy...not trying to pass judgment...but he has me even more upset now at his lack of compassion for the herps in his care

 

[robin]

some buy from private breeders. he might have a contract with some breeders to buy the "pet quality" animals

 

[Perefalcon]

possibly, but i remember about 2 years ago i offered to sell him a shepherd pup and he said something about breeders wanting too much money. maybe it's different now...but i don't plan on ever going back to ask him

 

[Nigel4less]

Do you guys know any decent herp vets in Southern California more specifically San Diego County? Ive gone through so many dog and cat vets that dont know what they are talking about. I brought in my tortoise for a check up once and the man was carrying a tortoise book thats got to be older then me. Thank the gecko gods Ive never had anything serious pop up in my small collection yet . Im hope that your feeder supplier does take that pet store to the cleaners! Good luck with the situation

 

[GeckoMandi]

Do you guys know any decent herp vets in Southern California more specifically San Diego County? Ive gone through so many dog and cat vets that dont know what they are talking about. I brought in my tortoise for a check up once and the man was carrying a tortoise book thats got to be older then me. Thank the gecko gods Ive never had anything serious pop up in my small collection yet . Im hope that your feeder supplier does take that pet store to the cleaners! Good luck with the situation

Try this website

http://www.herpvetconnection.com/calif.shtml

 

[robin]

possibly, but i remember about 2 years ago i offered to sell him a shepherd pup and he said something about breeders wanting too much money. maybe it's different now...but i don't plan on ever going back to ask him

jill one shepard pup isnt different from a litter of pups

 

[StinaKSU]

some buy from private breeders. he might have a contract with some breeders to buy the "pet quality" animals

A lot of places that say they do that....actually get the animals from mills. I saw a some expose thing on the news a few years back about that. I would not trust ANY petstore that sells puppies or kittens unless they can absolutely prove where the animals came from and that they are NOT from mills (and papers don't mean a thing...its very very easy to forge registration papers and whatnot). As far as stores with shelter animals....you will know if the animals are from a shelter and you don't actually buy them from the store. You are still adopting them from the shelter, they are just being displayed in the pet store....no decent shelter would ever sell animals to a petstore to sell.
I'd also like to ad that regardless of where the puppies or kittens in a pet store come from they are nearly kept always in suboptimal conditions and are not raised properly to have appropriate social "skills" with other animals or people. No truly respectable breeder would ever sell their puppies or kittens to a petstore to sell...regardless of the animal's quality.

tonya....niiiiiice....md's think they know it all....and humans have a LOT of differences from other species... MD's pretty much never even get any sort of comparative anatomy training and barely even get any training on zoonotic diseases....I don't know how they think they can diagnose an animal with ANYTHING....similar diseases can have entirely different symptoms between humans and common domestic species.... A veterinarian is more likely to diagnose a person with a zoonotic disease than an md is...that should tell you something right there...

 

[Nigel4less]

Thank you!

 

[robin]

md's think they know it all....

as do wanna be vets...