a really good pair that might be forwned on.....

[ElapidSVT]

that's the thing. i haven't heard *anything* negative.
you won't get all enigmas though, you'll get 75% enigmas and 25% normals from your typical enigma x enigma cross

the incentive to produce lots of enigmas is pretty low considering the pricing these days

 

[robin]

the incentive to produce most morphs is pretty low considering the prices.so many people are breeding right now that practically no one is making any money, not that most do anyhow but its even less now plsu the pooey economy. i would imagine most of the breeding being done right now is because people like their geckos and enjoy it rather than looking to make money.

animals that cost $500 last year will sell for about $100 this year. not many morphs are holding their prices at all. right now its all about what people are willing to pay and most people can not afford the more expensive stuff, the economy is crap and the gecko market totally over saturated.

 

[nevinm]

i just want a bell blazing blizzard with puple eyes

 

[robin]

LOL

 

[nevinm]

ya know what i mean? i could honestly care less who buys them, i know even if i have to let them go for $15 to a whole saler, as long as i get what i want. but i really dont think ill have that problem, since they will all be bell 100% het for blizzard

 

[robin]

yeah i do. you are doing it because you want to make it (the gecko) and you enjoy what you are doing NOT about the money and this is a good thing :thumbsup:

 

[nevinm]

i can tell you for sure that if i can get an all purple animal its going in a display tank in my living room. lol.... purple body and purple eyes......drooooooool.......

 

[robin]

yes but by doing a BBB you might get purple eyes but you are not going to get a purple body

i have already thought about how to make a lavender or purple gecko.

 

[nevinm]

i donno. Mr Monsters already has quite a bit of purple through out his body. so with a lil line breeding i should be there in the next 2 or 3 years.

 

[robin]

yeah yeah but remember what albinism does, it removes melanin. using BBB's you are gonna have to start putting color back into them which is like running in circles because of the albinism trait.
plus you are gonna have to be lucky enough to a) produce more BBB's and 2) produce purple eyes and then getting those both into the same gecko

 

[eyelids]

That's what the Enigma gene is for... I'm working the same angle just not with such a high caliber pairing...

 

[robin]

That's what the Enigma gene is for... I'm working the same angle just not with such a high caliber pairing...

the enigma gene is for what?

 

[OneFootedAce]

interesing discussion, but im just gunna say that your bbb is just spectacular lol. thats all i can say.

 

[eyelids]

the enigma gene is for what?

Really dark pigmentation...

 

[robin]

yes ( actually you dont get the dark pigmentation from enigmas) but the dark pigmentation in albinos is void. unless you have an old school dookie brown tremper and thats not purple its kinda maroon/brown

 

[eyelids]

Yeah, but Bell Enigmas can have VERY dark pigmentation...

Remember the first ones Kelli got?

Kelli's pic of an original gangster Bell Enigma...

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[paulnj]

Sounds like a great pairing to me Nevin.

The enigma gene is for enhancing color over here

 

[cj.thomas21]

Dang that will be cool to see a solid purple eye.

 

[robin]

Yeah, but Bell Enigmas can have VERY dark pigmentation...

Remember the first ones Kelli got?

Kelli's pic of an original gangster Bell Enigma...

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yes i remember the first ones. i have a male from three or four years ago. here is mine

they came in all sorta of colors and patterns, it just wasnt about increased melanin. this guy is not an albino either.

 

[robin]

Yeah, but Bell Enigmas can have VERY dark pigmentation...

Remember the first ones Kelli got?

Kelli's pic of an original gangster Bell Enigma...

View attachment 27853

p.s. you might want to ask kelli for permission before posting her photos.