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Kristi23

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I have a question. What is the biggest thing a new breeder should to be aware of ?

I wont be breeding mine this year but am thinking it could be a poss for next year. I know there would be no money in it for me as i have only 2 soon to be 3 geckos and most of the hatchlings would stay with me i think. So other than the fact i wont make money from it what would be the other big things to think about and be aware of before deciding for sure ?

Love the thread by the way. Have been wanting to ask this but did not want to start a thread on something that im not even sure i would end up doing.

Thanks

I'm not Ryan, but the biggest thing I needed to know is that you have to expect to put a gecko to sleep if needed. It's so hard to do. If you can't do that, then you shouldn't breed at all. Other than that, money and having room are the two biggest issues.
 

x.shell.x

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I'm not Ryan, but the biggest thing I needed to know is that you have to expect to put a gecko to sleep if needed. It's so hard to do. If you can't do that, then you shouldn't breed at all. Other than that, money and having room are the two biggest issues.

Thanks i have read a couple of threads on various sites including this one about the need to put down ill and deformed geckos ( im not clear on that one though. . . if it was deformed but able to live in a 'normal' manner would it then be ok to keep it but not breed it ? or is there something more to this that i am not picking up ? ) I think i could handle that aspect as i would not have to do it. As for the money well when it comes to my pets its not an issue. ( I have a cat i have had for around 17 years and she was run over by a car a couple years ago and somehow survived it and returned home to me about a week later missin the top of her head and with one ear hanging down by her chin. The vet bill for that was crazy and everyone thought i was crazy for paying for it because she wasn't a 'fancey' cat including the vet who wasnt sure she would make it but she was made of thougher stuff and is still fighting fit now just minus one ear lol she has a pretty funky doo too :main_laugh:) What are the chances of my Bonnie ending up badly though ?

If they are healthy and provided for properly the chances of something going wrong with her is slim right ? I know anything can happen but generally speaking she should be ok ?

Thanks again
 

Retribution Reptiles

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@x.shell.x ~ It's pretty much up to the owner to determine the circumstances of when to put down a gecko. Some people will go to the ends of the earth to rehab a gecko and pretty much force it to survive. I believe that if the gecko isn't striving to live then to just put it down. Some people may disagree with me and they have that right but it's what I do.

As far as the money side is involved, if you want to do this as a business and buy the best of the best get ready to spend more then a few thousand in housing and geckos. Pretty much figure on spending roughly $200-$300 on feeders alone (depending upon size of collection). Also buying the best of the best in stock of geckos is not cheap either. My motto is you get what you pay for. If you're not willing to drop 1k on an animal because it is the best of the best then I wouldn't suggest getting into a business and keep it as a hobby.
 

ajveachster

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@x.shell.x ~ It's pretty much up to the owner to determine the circumstances of when to put down a gecko. Some people will go to the ends of the earth to rehab a gecko and pretty much force it to survive. I believe that if the gecko isn't striving to live then to just put it down. Some people may disagree with me and they have that right but it's what I do.

I'm going to jump in with a few personal examples to illustrate what we have done in the past. Yes, with only 2 years of breeding we have already had to make this decision multiple times. We had one female that threw all deformities her first year. They were all fatal except for 2 animals. The one we called DS (Double Stump) because she had no front leg on one side and only half a leg on the other front side. Also her back was curved in a slight S shape. About 9 months after she hatched we decided to put her down because she was no longer able to eat on her own, shed on her own, or even move away from her own feces. The other one we still have, and her name is Gimpy. She has one deformed front leg, but is able to function as well as any normal gecko.
We were not sure if it was the male, female, or just a combination of the two parents that caused the problems in 2009. In 2010 we bred the female a second time with a different male. The first baby hatched out ok. The second baby hatched out with a fatal deformity. We stopped incubating any eggs the mother laid, and ended up selling her for a nominal price as a pet only.
 

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Stripe King
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Normals 100% double het Rainwater and Tremper and 50% poss het eclipse. Unsure if you are aware or not but all the albino strains are not compatable so breeding any of the 3 strains together is kind of pointless.
 

Bubba_da_leo

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Normals 100% double het Rainwater and Tremper and 50% poss het eclipse. Unsure if you are aware or not but all the albino strains are not compatable so breeding any of the 3 strains together is kind of pointless.

K thx i understand now, what if i breed that back to a hypo tang carrottail.
(kinda confused on morphs)
 

x.shell.x

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I'm going to jump in with a few personal examples to illustrate what we have done in the past. Yes, with only 2 years of breeding we have already had to make this decision multiple times. We had one female that threw all deformities her first year. They were all fatal except for 2 animals. The one we called DS (Double Stump) because she had no front leg on one side and only half a leg on the other front side. Also her back was curved in a slight S shape. About 9 months after she hatched we decided to put her down because she was no longer able to eat on her own, shed on her own, or even move away from her own feces. The other one we still have, and her name is Gimpy. She has one deformed front leg, but is able to function as well as any normal gecko.
We were not sure if it was the male, female, or just a combination of the two parents that caused the problems in 2009. In 2010 we bred the female a second time with a different male. The first baby hatched out ok. The second baby hatched out with a fatal deformity. We stopped incubating any eggs the mother laid, and ended up selling her for a nominal price as a pet only.

Aw sorry to hear that must have been real hard to do after 9 months. Thats the thing though i have only 2 geckos and both were bought as pets with no intention of breeding them until recently and im still not convinced im gonna do it i think a trip to the vet with Bonnie to check she is in as good health as she can be before hand and im gonna wait til next year too so i can have a good long think about it.

Thanks for the eye opener though i would have deformitys would happen less often. My main issue when i began thinking about this was the continued health of my female i would rather not do this if it was likly to have a bad effect on Bonnie however another member was kind enough to put my worries at ease.
 

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