Bufo alvarius

[DAWNoftheLEO]

Here's one of my "colorado river toad" "sonoran desert toad", or just bufos lol..

Nitrile gloves as the toads defenses are somewhat skin permeable.

And a few views of what the housing looks like now.. (had to change a few things)

 

[Nigel4less]

I`m digging that Bad boy. I can see a slight resemblance between him and a certain Star Wars Hut

 

[BIG HYDRO]

Great looking toad. The gloves are good for any amphibian, but for their safety not ours. The toxins won't hurt you through your skin. Is it the only one you have? I have been thinking about getting a couple more.

 

[Lena]

I've heard some questionable things about 'Bufo Toads'. Pardon me if this is inappropriate.. But isn't it true that this is the very genus (bufo) that people have been licking for their hallucinogenic properties?

 

[DAWNoftheLEO]

I've heard some questionable things about 'Bufo Toads'. Pardon me if this is inappropriate.. But isn't it true that this is the very genus (bufo) that people have been licking for their hallucinogenic properties?

I DO NOT RECOMMEND INGESTING ANY AMPHIBIANS OR BODY FLUIDS.

Unfortunately, the only thing questionable is adolescent minds and the minds of a few burnouts. Not to mention the "mystique" the media and movies have placed in peoples minds surrounding this toad Genus and species. SO, yes, it is true.

Bufotenine(ILLEGAL) is a chemical (tryptamine)that all toads in the bufo Genus secrete through the paratoid glands as a defense mechanism(venom). The properties of the bufotenine is known to be highly toxic and lethal when ingested. It is reported that the effects are similar to that of a short acting hallucionogenic substance (lsd, psilocybin, etc). As well, other pharmacological actions it can produce are an increase in heart contractions, tightening of the chest, decreasing of elecrtical impulses and death. (most often death is due to respiratory arrest).

Only the Bufo alvarius species produces what is known as 5-meo-Dmt or 5-methoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine (ILLEGAL). With a human threshold of 1mg this tryptamine causes experience of the void, the shattering of the universe, frightening and overwhelming forces, aliens, complete shifts in identity, rebirth, death of self and universe etc. Also described as being shot out of a cosmic cannon.

I believe china and somewhere in the indies, the toad skins or bufo venom is used as an aphrodisiac and street drug still to this day.

Other genus of frogs produce the same cocktail of deadly chemicals. Not to mention numerous (too many to count) seeds, grasses, roots, trees, foliage and mushrooms contain the exact same substances listed here. Humans too are known to produce similar chemicals. I wouldn't be to worried.

I do not condone any of this. I am knowledgable of these subtances being a student of pharmacology, psychopharmacology and ethnobiology.

I wear gloves when handling for fear of tracking any of the venom to my geckos, cats and other humans. I don't care what toxic subtance is near my body, it doesn't belong on my skin.

 

[Lena]

I was just curious, I don't condone it either.

My only question that remains is.. Who got the idea to start ingesting toad slime?

Anyway, beautiful toad, thanks for the info.

 

[Bling_my_leo]

Sweet toad you got there. Where did you get this guy to?

 

[Halley]

very cool!

 

[BIG HYDRO]

Also cocofiber is a much better choice than moss. Moss can cause impaction if ingested, even if feeding in another container they can swallow it.

Actually the toxin has to be milked, dried, and then smoked to get the hallucinigenic effect.

They currently have a few on kingsnake.com classifieds.

 

[jmlslayer]

I was just curious, I don't condone it either.

My only question that remains is.. Who got the idea to start ingesting toad slime?

Anyway, beautiful toad, thanks for the info.

Well from what i have read you have to to more that "lick" it......well you dont lick it at all......thats all im saying i have never done toad but have read about it and have friends who do

 

[shadowx362]

cool toad maybe I should take a pic of the toad that's been in my front yard for about a year now. It comes and goes I sometimes I even see him in the garage trying to find escaped crickets

 

[DAWNoftheLEO]

Also cocofiber is a much better choice than moss. Moss can cause impaction if ingested, even if feeding in another container they can swallow it.

Actually the toxin has to be milked, dried, and then smoked to get the hallucinigenic effect.

They currently have a few on kingsnake.com classifieds.

Actually, lol. :main_laugh:

And by they, you mean ken foose from exotic pets, NV and robbie keszey from glades herp, FL.

To tell me Bufotenine(5-OH-DMT) and 5-Meo-dmt are only bioavailable smoked through the lungs as a route of administation, is just uneducated AND not factual among other things.

Please do some research before giving the kind of advice you are. These substances are toxic and illegal. I think I kept it very scientific while you wanna tell people how to get "high" and possibly kill themselves.

I do suggest you edit your post.

 

[BIG HYDRO]

Suggest anything youwant. but to tell me that smoking it does not work is rediculous. Maybe licking it is a way to get a little bit of the effects, but not nearly as fast or as effective as the way I mentioned. Maybe you should do some of the research on it. Since you think you are the know all on the subject, get YOUR facts right. Not that I would encourage anyone else to do this, but I have extensive experience with this subject, and the methods.

http://www.erowid.org/archive/sonoran_desert_toad/almost.htm

 

[DAWNoftheLEO]

Unforutunately for you, you probably should research grammar and parts of sentences more-so than trip reports from others like yourself:main_yes: ,you obviously cannot comprehend the conversation or "argument" at hand. Show me once in my replies or statements that points to "administration through the lungs not being "bioavailable"? Lol, you cannot.

Let's play catch up.

You wrote this.

The gloves are good for any amphibian, but for their safety not ours.

I wrote this.

I wear gloves when handling for fear of tracking any of the venom to my geckos, cats and other humans. I don't care what toxic subtance is near my body, it doesn't belong on my skin.

This means I don't want any toxic substances on my hand to possibly pass off and kill my animals.


You wrote this in response.

Actually the toxin has to be milked, dried, and then smoked to get the hallucinigenic effect.

This is you speaking about hallucionogenic effects and how to get high off of an animal(im not sure why), with the "actually" implying something I said was misleading or false. I dunno why you felt the need to reply giving this information, do you think you are being cool by giving this extraction and use method to children that possibly view this?


I wrote this in response.

To tell me Bufotenine(5-OH-DMT) and 5-Meo-dmt are only bioavailable smoked through the lungs as a route of administation, is just uneducated AND not factual among other things.

This means, I feel you thinking Bufotenine and 5-meo-dmt are only absorbed through the bloodstream through the lungs, is an uneducated statement and not fact. In all actuallity, the substances the Genus Bufo secretes, in VERY small amounts can kill small animals and humans. (It doesn't matter whether the animal was envenomed through the mouth, lungs or whatever way it is bioavailable) The fact remains, either route of administration, these noxious chemicals are very dangerous and potentially fatal.

I'm sure everyone here doesn't want to hear about your extensive drug use and knowledge of methods using illicit substances. I'm also not sure if boasting about something like that is in your favor here. (we don't need to know that indepth about your life) We also don't need people coming in here and giving recipes or preparations of potentially fatal substances which has resulted in many human fatalities.

to tell me that smoking it does not work is rediculous. Maybe licking it is a way to get a little bit of the effects, but not nearly as fast or as effective as the way I mentioned.

You're arguing about getting high again (for no apparent reason as I never mentioned anything about methods or ways to get high)

Maybe you should do some of the research on it. Since you think you are the know all on the subject, get YOUR facts right.

This shows your arrogance clear as day, pal. I dunno if anymore needs to be said. But, I'd appreciate it if you stop trying to hijack and derail the thread I posted with your dangerous misinformation.

I also will repeat this " I think I kept it very scientific while you wanna tell people how to get "high" and possibly kill themselves."

 

[BIG HYDRO]

First of all, my comment about the gloves was BEFORE you posted the reason you wore the gloves. Hats off to you.

Second of all, my comment on the hallucinogenic element was in responce to someone else, and not you, so it looks like you also can't follow a conversation too well.

Lastly, who said anything about me doing drugs or getting high? You obviously never stopped to use your oversized head to think that maybe it has something to do with what I do for a living.

Ps. I hardly see how I am hijacking your thread by talking with you, and nothing I posted was misinformation, just not something you liked reading, get over yourself.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

Actually the toxin has to be milked, dried, and then smoked to get the hallucinigenic effect.

OK guys... let's keep the conversation based on facts, and not based on word-of-mouth and/or opinions. GeckoForums.net does NOT condone the implication or use of toxic and/or illegal chemicals, whether natural or laboratory created, in order to induce any recreational 'high'.

Keep in mind that there are many minors (under the age of 18) here on GeckoForums.net, and it is our ethical responsibility to set the appropriate example for our future herpers.

Also, we have very explicit rules here on GF in regard to personal attacks on other members. We just can't have this kind of crap here on this forum, and warnings WILL be issued.

 

[hondawingsfly]

haha you cant lick bufo thats a very bad idea...but dmt has been used for a very very long time by shaman

 

[Lena]

DMT is the main ingredient in cough syrup... If you want to cure a sore throat, I think that's as much as you're going to get.

 

[DAWNoftheLEO]

DMT is the main ingredient in cough syrup... If you want to cure a sore throat, I think that's as much as you're going to get.

I think you mean, DXM, dextromethorphan hydrobromide..

 

[Lena]

Ooh. Never mind. :main_laugh:

I feel dumb now.