Can anyone tell which albino strain my juv. female leo is?

lillith

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OH Hades.
I just answered your message and then saw this.

Sometimes they will hatch premature...the internal bleeding you saw may have just been the amnion that didn't disconnect all the way; it's attached to the yolk sac and is the equivalent of an umbilical cord. Sometimes when you get a preemie like that, it's hard to tell where the abdomen ends and the yolk sac begins.

I can say that I had this happen before...and I also had it happen to me within the last two days...I had hatched out my first full bold stripe from stripe-y parents carrying bold genes. It got out of its egg with the biggest yolk I ever saw attached. I kept it in the incubator from Wednesday until this morning, when it saw fit to escape the cup it was in. Since it seemed to be breathing okay, I moved it to the rack this morning. I rushed home this afternoon to check on it, I was planning to try to feed it by hand for extra energy...and as I pulled it out, I saw it was gasping. A few minutes later it died in my hands. I had had hopes for it because it was a good solid 3g. Oh, well.

Sometimes when they pip too early, their lungs aren't completely developed, or there's another invisible internal issue that causes instant death...it's very disappointing. And I can only imagine how much more disappointing it can be on your first egg. =(

The only other comfort I can try to offer, is: if it can't make it out of the egg, it may not have been strong enough to thrive and you may only be delaying the inevitable unpleasantry.

I'm sorry you lost your first hatchling...so very, very much.
Another possibility that I can imagine may have happened to yours - since you said its nose was still "egg-covered" - was that the chorionic sac (the "caul" for lack of a better word) got stuck and it suffocated on the way out.

Hang in there for the second one, and give it time, it can take a few more days, or even a week - especially if the clutchmate was a preemie.
 
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Thanks for your message, I feel so much better knowing that it wasn't all my fault. I think that it was probably a combination of all the factors you have mentioned. It's just such a shame because it looked like it would have been great gecko to have looked after. But what was more upsetting was that I could spot features from the parents!!! For example it had a green forehead like the forehead that the female has developed over the past few sheds. It was high yellow like the male, and I don't know whether it's eyes were eclipse or snake because They never opened. Thanks for all of your help, it really is appreciated, and let's just hope the next egg hatches and the hatchling survives!! The second egg hast even started sweating yet, so I'm guessing it was premature.
 

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Good news!!! Today I was surprised by a perfectly formed little gecko that looks very healthy indeed :) pictures to follow later
 

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I have never heard this before. I handle gecko eggs all the time and write on them with sharpies. The babies hatch out just fine :)

Handling once or twice to mark or situate into incubation is not bad; but repeated handling rubs human hand secretions (sweat, sebum, urea, etc) into the shell, it can cause translucent shells, even. Not to mention, each time you fiddle with eggs, you're possibly introducing all kinds of pathogens wild gecko eggs never heard of.
 

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