Canned food

[larry26]

I wanted to know if i could feed my leo canned food because i know that if i hold the food and shake it he will eat it (this happened one time when he killed a cricket but didnt eat it so i shook it around him and he ate it right out of my hands). Would the canned silk worms be a good treat for every once and a while?

 

[Lena]

I would say treat only.. Don't trust the nutritional facts. Canned, processed, preserved food, be it for humans or for reptiles, looses much if not all of it's nutritional value.

 

[larry26]

Yea i was just planning on it being a tread of maybe once every other week of like slikworms or waxworms

 

[RepBex]

i would not feed them all the time but i think its a good idea as you can get diffrent kinds of feeders as treats and not worry about them dieing

 

[gators0204]

I have been feeding mine can o crickets since i could remember. They are always gut loaded, fat, plump and big from the can. Only need to dust with calcium and your set. For anyone who says they are not health are wrong. I still have my first offspring from 10 or so years ago. Every gecko I have had since has been on can o crickets with the ocassional waxie, etc. I have never had any health issues with any of my geckos.

among the many pluses of feeding them canned is convienence. Feed a couple of them and the put them in the fridge.

I cant speak for the freeze dried looking crickets, those dont look nutritional at all.

 

[Lena]

I have been feeding mine can o crickets since i could remember. They are always gut loaded, fat, plump and big from the can. Only need to dust with calcium and your set. For anyone who says they are not health are wrong. I still have my first offspring from 10 or so years ago. Every gecko I have had since has been on can o crickets with the ocassional waxie, etc. I have never had any health issues with any of my geckos.

among the many pluses of feeding them canned is convienence. Feed a couple of them and the put them in the fridge.

I cant speak for the freeze dried looking crickets, those dont look nutritional at all.

Just because you feed them doesn't mean everyone else is wrong.

"According to the U. S. Food and Drug Administration, the heating process during canning destroys from one-third to one-half of vitamins A and C, riboflavin, and thiamine. For every year the food is stored, canned food loses an additional 5 to 20% of these vitamins."

...At least I have some basis to back up my statement.

Now if that's what it does to veggies, just imagine what it does to something like a cricket.

And just because they aren't having health problems doesn't mean it isn't less healthy.. :main_rolleyes:

 

[Leopard.Geckerz]

I have been feeding mine can o crickets since i could remember. They are always gut loaded, fat, plump and big from the can. Only need to dust with calcium and your set. For anyone who says they are not health are wrong. I still have my first offspring from 10 or so years ago. Every gecko I have had since has been on can o crickets with the ocassional waxie, etc. I have never had any health issues with any of my geckos.

among the many pluses of feeding them canned is convienence. Feed a couple of them and the put them in the fridge.

I cant speak for the freeze dried looking crickets, those dont look nutritional at all.

Most geckos won't eat it if it's not moving. I know for a fact mine wouldn't touch them because they won't even eat slow-moving worms. I'm sure your geckos are fine, but it's the same as many geckos living all their lives on sand and being fine, IMO.

I'd never feed canned. I'd rather feed fresh. You're just safer. If you want to try worms as a treat, find some locally, it's not too hard, you can maybe have a local pet store order them in for you.

 

[Lena]

I'm sure your geckos are fine, but it's the same as many geckos living all their lives on sand and being fine, IMO.

Well said.

It's like junk food. Some people eat junk food all the time.. But it usually leads to health problems.. Why take the risk? (Just as with sand, why take the risk?)

 

[cwazy]

:main_thumbsdown::main_no:

 

[Gregg M]

I'm sure your geckos are fine, but it's the same as many geckos living all their lives on sand and being fine, IMO.

Equating keeping leos on sand and feeding canned food is a bit far fetched...

First, this is not a sand thread...

Second, neither is lethal in and of its self...

Unless you or anyone has any solid nutritional studies done on canned crickets compared to live, it is purely guess work on your end and not proven fact...

The claim against canned crickets in this thread are no more valid than a claim that is for them...:main_thumbsup:

 

[Leopard.Geckerz]

Equating keeping leos on sand and feeding canned food is a bit far fetched...

First, this is not a sand thread...

Second, neither is lethal in and of its self...

Unless you or anyone has any solid nutritional studies done on canned crickets compared to live, it is purely guess work on your end and not proven fact...

The claim against canned crickets in this thread are no more valid than a claim that is for them...:main_thumbsup:

Fair enough, it's just something I'd never do, and don't see a reason for. I just don't see any issue feeding live and if you own a reptile, you shouldn't.

 

[Nigel4less]

Fair enough, it's just something I'd never do, and don't see a reason for. I just don't see any issue feeding live and if you own a reptile, you shouldn't.

:main_yes:

 

[gators0204]

Just because you feed them doesn't mean everyone else is wrong.


...At least I have some basis to back up my statement.

Now if that's what it does to veggies, just imagine what it does to something like a cricket.

And just because they aren't having health problems doesn't mean it isn't less healthy.. :main_rolleyes:

I am not saying you are wrong if you dont wanna use canned food, just saying you are wrong for saying its unhealthy. Going by your thought I guess I'll never eat canned food either, or my dogs will never get dry kibble. Guess I'll have to cook everything fresh from scratch for me, my family, the dogs oh and I guess I'll have to go catch fresh insects in my back yard too:main_rolleyes: I'll just stop working. :main_laugh:I have been eatin plenty of canned food throughout my life and i am a healthy bodybuilder/gym rat that is most likely in more shape than you since i dont lead a sedentary lifestyle. But by your logic I should be unhealthy cause i eat canned food and you belive everything the fda or government says, you are still a youngin and you'll learn that one soon enough.

I will continue to feed the many geckos that will accept the dead food with success and they will stay healthy as they have been.

Also I was letting the op know that the canned food is just fine from my experience, and that the op can have a alternative and more convinient way of feeding his little fella. I also know plenty of other people who use it for their geckos and other reptiles. Otherwise my post wasnt intended for you or for you to comment back at my posting.

 

[Gregg M]

Fair enough, it's just something I'd never do, and don't see a reason for. I just don't see any issue feeding live and if you own a reptile, you shouldn't.

I am not saying I dont agree with you... I happen to think it is always better to feed live/fresh foods to our pets... BUT, Who are you to say how anyone should feel about feeding live food to anything they own??? I do not see the logic in that statement...

Just want to put this out there though... What about rodent feeders??? Why is it ok to feed pre killed/frozen thawed rodents to reptiles but its not ok to feed insects that are pre killed to geckos???

Should I not own and breed snakes and monitors because 99% of their diets are prekilled rodents???

Just something to think about...

 

[gators0204]

Equating keeping leos on sand and feeding canned food is a bit far fetched...

First, this is not a sand thread...

Second, neither is lethal in and of its self...

Unless you or anyone has any solid nutritional studies done on canned crickets compared to live, it is purely guess work on your end and not proven fact...

The claim against canned crickets in this thread are no more valid than a claim that is for them...:main_thumbsup:

Well said. I am not against live, but there is no problem with canned either. I do think its more convinient for the person who cant breed their own crickets.

Take my opinion or experience as you will.

nuff said, im done on this subject.

 

[Leopard.Geckerz]

I am not saying I dont agree with you... I happen to think it is always better to feed live/fresh foods to our pets... Who are you to say how anyone should feel about feeding live food to anything they own??? I do not see the logic in that statement...

Just want to put this out there though... What about rodent feeders??? Why is it ok to feed pre killed/frozen thawed rodents to reptiles but its not ok to feed insects that are pre killed to geckos???

Should I not own and breed snakes and monitors because 99% of their diets are prekilled rodents???

Just something to think about...

As far as I've ever read, rodents are pre-killed because they can cause harm to reptiles with their teeth and claws.

I didn't mean to offend anyone.

 

[gators0204]

I am not saying I dont agree with you... I happen to think it is always better to feed live/fresh foods to our pets... Who are you to say how anyone should feel about feeding live food to anything they own??? I do not see the logic in that statement...

Just want to put this out there though... What about rodent feeders??? Why is it ok to feed pre killed/frozen thawed rodents to reptiles but its not ok to feed insects that are pre killed to geckos???

Should I not own and breed snakes and monitors because 99% of their diets are prekilled rodents???

Just something to think about...

I did hear from a reputable snake guy I know that the frozen mice sometimes can carry harmful bacteria that can be transferred to the snake.

No idea if thats true or not

 

[elnott]

I did hear from a reputable snake guy I know that the frozen mice sometimes can carry harmful bacteria that can be transferred to the snake.

No idea if thats true or not

i would think that the freezing of the animal would kill off most bacteria that the feeder could be carrying.

 

[gators0204]

i would think that the freezing of the animal would kill off most bacteria that the feeder could be carrying.

there are some bacteria that thrive and/or multiply in colder temps.

I did have a beautiful red tail boa that I fed frozen food and she mysteriously died one day. Don't know if that was the cause or not but makes me wonder.:main_huh:

 

[Lena]

The claim against canned crickets in this thread are no more valid than a claim that is for them...

This is false, because we know - there is scientific proof - foods loose nutritional value during the canning process. Does anyone read what I post?

So the claim against canned crickets is STRONGER than the claim for them.

As for the frozen/thawed arguement.. This is totally different. F/T mice are not canned or preserved. They're just.. Frozen then thawed out.