Confused about red stripe

[RampantReptiles]

Ok I am pretty sure I have been calling my leopard gecko by the wrong morph. I have been calling him a red stripe when in fact I think he is not. I think he may be what some call a Patternless Stripe, or maybe a High Contrast Reverse Stripe?. His mother was sold to me by JMG as a Reverse Stripe. Yet there is little to no spotting on her or her son... IDK please someone correct me if I am wrong or explain to me what they are.

I am further confused about red stripes versus dorsal stripes... which no one really seems to use the term dorsal stripe anymore.

 

[Vision Geckos]

You got me. I'm still trying to figure out why there is a morph called a "red stripe", when there are in fact no red stripes. The stripe itself is not red. The gecko is not red. Neither is even close. Why red stripe?

 

[RampantReptiles]

I guess cause its reddish orange... working towards red? *shrug*

 

[robin]

You got me. I'm still trying to figure out why there is a morph called a "red stripe", when there are in fact no red stripes. The stripe itself is not red. The gecko is not red. Neither is even close. Why red stripe?

i beg to differ. i wish some of your guys could have seen ross payans red stripe (from years ago) and some of the old red stripes from high quality reptiles. now while these are orange and some very deep oranges (and almost redish) these are some amazing examples of JMG red stripes http://www.jmgreptile.com/redstripes.html

 

[acpart]

You could call it a patternless red stripe since it has very little spotting on the body. You could also say that the yellow/gold color down the middle is the gecko's "body color" and that the two orange fields, one on each side, are the "stripes". Some of it really depends on how the gecko looked as a hatchling. I find that many of the stripes get spottier as they age. The gecko in my avatar, for example, is now much spottier and about 3 years older than that picture. The "dorsal stripe", which has nothing to do with the stripe morph, just refers to a longitudenal non-spotted area which I think is normal for most leopard geckos but more visible in some than in others.

Aliza

Aliza

 

[RampantReptiles]

i beg to differ. i wish some of your guys could have seen ross payans red stripe (from years ago) and some of the old red stripes from high quality reptiles. now while these are orange and some very deep oranges (and almost redish) these are some amazing examples of JMG red stripes http://www.jmgreptile.com/redstripes.html

Where did these red stripes go?

Ok so from looking at JMGs "red stripes" he is infact a red stripe. Although I see a lot of red stripes that have spots so maybe it would be better to call him a patternless red stripe

 

[RampantReptiles]

You could call it a patternless red stripe since it has very little spotting on the body.

Haha beat me to it!

I actually posted this guys "evolution" from baby to adult in the before/after section but I can repost his baby pic here
(cuddling with sissy)

After a couple sheds I think

 

[robin]

Ok I am pretty sure I have been calling my leopard gecko by the wrong morph. I have been calling him a red stripe when in fact I think he is not. I think he may be what some call a Patternless Stripe, or maybe a High Contrast Reverse Stripe?. His mother was sold to me by JMG as a Reverse Stripe. Yet there is little to no spotting on her or her son... IDK please someone correct me if I am wrong or explain to me what they are.

I am further confused about red stripes versus dorsal stripes... which no one really seems to use the term dorsal stripe anymore.

what you have is a red stripe. a dorsal stripe is a with a lighter strip just going down the spine of an animal but no tail stripe. albey has some of the best examples http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images/SHTLG03-72.jpg also look here http://www.albeysreptiles.com/bestof2003.htm. a reversed s tripe is an animal that has patch of non pigmented/ lavender skin surrounded by a darker color like black ,red, orange. here is an albino reversed stripe http://www.leopardgeckowiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Image:Mmtremperreversestripe3.jpg

ok hope this helps.

 

[robin]

Where did these red stripes go?

Ok so from looking at JMGs "red stripes" he is infact a red stripe. Although I see a lot of red stripes that have spots so maybe it would be better to call him a patternless red stripe

honestly, i would not confuse things even more and call it a patternless red stripe or whatever

also check out the gecko in the logo for leos anonymous http://web.archive.org/web/20070415231822/http://leosanonymous.com/. he had some that were out of this world. and i do not know what happened to him or his geckos.

some of those red stripe with black or darker pigmentation are outcrosses or just low grade red stripes.

 

[RampantReptiles]

WOWZAAs :shocked:
Odd that he just disappeared off the earth...
Actually I dont think those guys are all that much more red than JMG's but that was definitely a wicked looking lavender red stripe.

 

[RampantReptiles]

some of those red stripe with black or darker pigmentation are outcrosses or just low grade red stripes.

ahh ok... was thinking that was the norm and that they were kinda not that nice looking

 

[robin]

WOWZAAs :shocked:
Odd that he just disappeared off the earth...
Actually I dont think those guys are all that much more red than JMG's but that was definitely a wicked looking lavender red stripe.

did you see the one in the logo?

 

[RampantReptiles]

Actually I dont think those guys are all that much more red than JMG's but that was definitely a wicked looking lavender red stripe.

Yeah thats the one I was talking about, the logo. Maybe its my laptop screen but if you look carefully the color "red" on the body is actually slightly lighter than the color on the tail. It still looks pretty orange to me but idk. Albey has some dorsal stripes that have equivalent color. Second look at JMG's and they arent as nice as I remembered.

 

[steve905]

Gee and tio think we ALL thought the leo morph guide was gonna be a easy peasy deal and done in a few weeks....Man my brain hurts reading this...

 

[robin]

Gee and tio think we ALL thought the leo morph guide was gonna be a easy peasy deal and done in a few weeks....Man my brain hurts reading this...

it's not easy to do also people have real lives outside of the internet

 

[RampantReptiles]

Gee and tio think we ALL thought the leo morph guide was gonna be a easy peasy deal and done in a few weeks....Man my brain hurts reading this...

LMAO I feel your pain!

 

[Vision Geckos]

I took a look at that JMG link, and although the quality of stripe there does stand out more than other breeders', I still don't think it's enough to warrant the word "red". The stripe itself is not red. It is tan, with an outline of orange. There was one or two who looked like they would potentially have an actual red stripe. Sometimes I wish the names weren't solely based solely on genotype, but phenotype.

 

[ILoveGeckos14]

I took a look at that JMG link, and although the quality of stripe there does stand out more than other breeders', I still don't think it's enough to warrant the word "red". The stripe itself is not red. It is tan, with an outline of orange. There was one or two who looked like they would potentially have an actual red stripe. Sometimes I wish the names weren't solely based solely on genotype, but phenotype.

That's what I was trying to explain with the raptor debate--that for me it is more about the phenotype and keeping track of the genetics versus the genotype.

Btw does anyone know when the redstripe came out as a morph? Where does it fit in the chronology of leopard gecko morphs? Thanks in advance!

 

[roger]

That's what I was trying to explain with the raptor debate--that for me it is more about the phenotype and keeping track of the genetics versus the genotype.

Btw does anyone know when the redstripe came out as a morph? Where does it fit in the chronology of leopard gecko morphs? Thanks in advance!

I love geckos, I agree with you whole heartedly !! I think we just loosely base a morph and get away from their true characteristics IE Raptors.There are a million animals that dont fit the RAPTOR acroynm but are called Raptors,just like the red stripes.Almost 90% of the red stripes dont even have the stripes or for that matter arnt even red.The emerine is another example.I dont even see a greeish ting in half of them certainly not to be called green??

 

[robin]

Btw does anyone know when the redstripe came out as a morph? Where does it fit in the chronology of leopard gecko morphs? Thanks in advance!

long story short, old school nieves tangs threw redish or brownish and even orangish stripes. people began to breed "rainbows" and eventually many years later "rainbows" morphed into red stripes by adding new blood with color and selective breeding. the best people to ask about this is albey, kelli and nicole from K and N geckos.