Confused albino

[Rep-Tails]

I bought an albino female a while back, and when she arrived it was discovered that she has two black dots on her, one on her nose and one on the back of her neck. That sort of threw me, but both parents were Tremper so I didn’t think anymore of it. Last year I went to breed her with one of my Tremper males; I hatched all normal (banded) babies. So now I am left asking myself is she really a Tremper? I know my male is as he was bought straight from RT. Or is she a Tremper and just a genetic fluke showing albino. I have never seen an albino with black on them. And I am not that great at telling the 3 albino strands apart. Any ideas???

 

[boutiquegecko]

Do you have a photo of her?

 

[Rep-Tails]

I will get one up in the morning

 

[Nigel4less]

She could be a very dark albino just producing very DARK brown pigment that appears to be black. As for producing normal babies there is one of two possibilities. A) It could be another strain of albino Rainwater or Bell, producing double Hets for Tremper and whatever other albino you bred it too, or B) It could be a normal resulting in Het Trempers

 

[Rep-Tails]

here is a pic of her. She's not a dark albino, her brown is fairly light tan

 

[paulnj]

Tremper albino with paradox spots. Basicly they are birth marks that pop up randomly and for no reason.

 

[eyelids]

Tremper albino with paradox spots. Basicly they are birth marks that pop up randomly and for no reason.

I think you missed something...

Last year I went to breed her with one of my Tremper males; I hatched all normal (banded) babies.

If you're sure you didn't mix up the eggs with another female's I'd put her with a Bell... If you still get normals try breeding her or her offspring to a Rainwater... Still get normals... Then it's a new strain of albino Leopard Gecko...

She is probably an off colored Bell...

 

[TokayKeeper]

the one on the head looks like a small scab?

is the male a het for albino or straight albino....if he's only a het I've got a genetics lesson that involves the year 2002, a het albino rainwater female bred to a full rainwater albino male, 14 eggs and only 1 produced an albino - the rest were normals (100% hets)!

Probability speaking I should have had 50% normals (would have been het rainwater albino) and 50% albinos. And had I produced 1000 eggs from her that might have been the case.

 

[paulnj]

I didn't miss anything Mike I still say tremper until I see an eye shot that shows me bell eyes. Genetics is not a 100% guarantee Mike, I will give it 98.9% accuracy in the tremper lines and 99.999999999% other lines

 

[Rep-Tails]

the one on the head looks like a small scab?

I dont think its a scab I have had her for a little over a year now and i would of thought it would of healed or fell off with a shed.

 

[Mel&Keith]

Do you have pics of the offspring?


This was a post from another thread but maybe it's relevant here. It was another member who was wondering how they got non-albinos from 2 Trempers. It turns out that they were Trempers, just really dark ones.

Here the post:

here is a pic of the parents

here is a pic of the babies from these two

this is the other baby both were incubated for female at 26c

this is a pic of the hatchlings eye and below that a pic of the adults is this correct are my babies tangelos or something else???

thanx in advance
mel x

 

[Rep-Tails]

She could be a very dark albino just producing very DARK brown pigment that appears to be black. As for producing normal babies there is one of two possibilities. A) It could be another strain of albino Rainwater or Bell, producing double Hets for Tremper and whatever other albino you bred it too, or B) It could be a normal resulting in Het Trempers

Ok i understood possibility A. But I dont understand how B works. If the male is Tremper Albino and she is to I should get 100% tremper albinos, how would I get hets?

 

[Mel&Keith]

He posted that response before you posted the picture of her so he may have been assuming that mother was possibly not albino. After seeing a pic, obviously she is. So either a) she is not a Tremper, or b) the babies are really dark Trempers. Did you find any pics of the babies?

 

[Rep-Tails]

here are the two from that pairing

 

[chad ramsey]

i think that you have two different albino genes.

pic of the male?

 

[Mel&Keith]

Yeah, it looks like mom and dad must be different strains of albino.

 

[dprince]

Yeah, it looks like mom and dad must be different strains of albino.

Agreed. You shouldn't get anything but albinos when the same strain of albinos are bred to each other, and those babies appear to be normal as can be. But cute!!!

 

[paulnj]

That image of the parents is trempers if you ask me.

 

[Mel&Keith]

That image of the parents is trempers if you ask me.

The image on the two Trempers together was a section that I quoted from another thread. The picture of the albino on the first page is his gecko. Just to clarify..... Why is it that I can make anything confusing??? I would love to see more pictures of the parents of these though.

 

[lil_katiedan]

We have hatched some dark albinos before that we thought were normals and as they got older they lightened up. In your case they really do look normal so I agree, we need a picture of the male. Crazy genetics...