TokayKeeper
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Ignoring the whole opinions of current or past breeders, can we get some stability in naming on at least some morphs?
Actually, let's disregard that statement. Let's take the gloves off a little.
Those of us that have been working with leo geckos for some years now, as well as those just plainly "in the know" and haven't necessarily been working with leos for years, may or may not be aware of ill dealings with some breeders. Some choose to threaten with lawsuit when truth be posted, some are, for the most part, silent, and yet others just flat disappeared into the Las Vegas desert. None the less, it's common practice to give credit and recognition where such is due; and whether or not any individual(s) had good or bad dealings.
Thus my rant on the albinos. For a few years know you see Bell line, Tremper line, Rainwater line, Las Vegas Line...shoot, let's not forget Mark Leshock Line. Ironically, and oddly enough, the OLD (copyright 1998) Leopard Gecko Manual has photos of the Rainwater and Leshock Line albinos, but only a vague mentioning of text about 1 of those lines - the Rainwater line - and then more text about the Tremper line. Now, I'm unsure of what's mentioned in the newest installment, but that's aside the point - mostly.
So I propose the following poll/question. Do we, to keep confusion from being worse than it already is, simply want to recognise the efforts of "big name" breeders past and present by calling their respective lines by their name or do we disrespect their efforts and just call their lines by the state/town the lines originated from.
Going off of this, we now have Nevada (Las Vegas), California, and Florida line albinos. Or we have Rainwater, California (???who's the breeder???), and Bell Lines. I guess Tremper does get credit, as that albino hatched by the Californian brothers died in Ron's care and he had to use Rosy's brother to revive the line. Which brings us to Nevada, Texas, and Florida or Rainwater, Tremper, Bell, respectively, as our lines.
Poll is public and active for 30 days from today.
Works Cited
Tremper, R. (1998). Color and Pattern Variations in Leopard Geckos. In de Vosjoli, P., Klingenberg, R. DVM,
Actually, let's disregard that statement. Let's take the gloves off a little.
Those of us that have been working with leo geckos for some years now, as well as those just plainly "in the know" and haven't necessarily been working with leos for years, may or may not be aware of ill dealings with some breeders. Some choose to threaten with lawsuit when truth be posted, some are, for the most part, silent, and yet others just flat disappeared into the Las Vegas desert. None the less, it's common practice to give credit and recognition where such is due; and whether or not any individual(s) had good or bad dealings.
Thus my rant on the albinos. For a few years know you see Bell line, Tremper line, Rainwater line, Las Vegas Line...shoot, let's not forget Mark Leshock Line. Ironically, and oddly enough, the OLD (copyright 1998) Leopard Gecko Manual has photos of the Rainwater and Leshock Line albinos, but only a vague mentioning of text about 1 of those lines - the Rainwater line - and then more text about the Tremper line. Now, I'm unsure of what's mentioned in the newest installment, but that's aside the point - mostly.
So I propose the following poll/question. Do we, to keep confusion from being worse than it already is, simply want to recognise the efforts of "big name" breeders past and present by calling their respective lines by their name or do we disrespect their efforts and just call their lines by the state/town the lines originated from.
If the latter, Tremper line could be confusing because according to Color and Pattern Variations in Leopard Geckos (Tremper, 1998):
Going off of this, we now have Nevada (Las Vegas), California, and Florida line albinos. Or we have Rainwater, California (???who's the breeder???), and Bell Lines. I guess Tremper does get credit, as that albino hatched by the Californian brothers died in Ron's care and he had to use Rosy's brother to revive the line. Which brings us to Nevada, Texas, and Florida or Rainwater, Tremper, Bell, respectively, as our lines.
Poll is public and active for 30 days from today.
Works Cited
Tremper, R. (1998). Color and Pattern Variations in Leopard Geckos. In de Vosjoli, P., Klingenberg, R. DVM,
Tremper, R., * Viets, B., The Leopard Gecko Manual (pp. 67-72). Singapore.
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