cross outcome?

[geckoluv2187]

what would be the outcome of
enigma het bell x aptor tremper het RAPTOR

Would they still be enigmas? Or would they be normals?

 

[paulnj]

Well theoretically.

half aberrant patterned het tremper/ 50% het bell/ 50% het eclipse

half enigma het tremper/ 50% het bell/ 50% het eclipse

 

[Gazz]

Well the outcome would be a lynch mob with pitch forks and lit torches running after you :main_laugh: :main_laugh: as you would be knowingly crossing two albino strains :main_no: .Other than that about what Paul said :main_thumbsup: .

 

[geckoluv2187]

what is aberrant patterned?

 

[Mel&Keith]

You'd be FAR better off crossing the Enigma with a Bell of some sort to make Bell Enigmas. Personally, I don't think creating double hets for both albino strains is a good idea and they'd just be harder to sell.

 

[paulnj]

non banded

 

[Mel&Keith]

what is aberrant patterned?

In between a normal banded and a jungle to put it simply.

 

[geckoluv2187]

Well the outcome would be a lynch mob with pitch forks and lit torches running after you as you would be knowingly crossing two albino strains .Other than that about what Paul said

I know very little about genetics. Why would a lynch mob be after me?

 

[paulnj]

mixing albino strains is not advised in the gecko community.

 

[Mel&Keith]

The 3 strains of albino are not compatible and just create double hets.

edit: I'm too sleepy to type....

 

[geckoluv2187]

What is a double het exactly? and why are they not liked?
I know really basic genetics, but this is where it gets a little fuzzy for me.

 

[paulnj]

For alittle more $$ you can aquire a het tremper enigma and get actual tremper enigmas from that cross.

Basically making double hets (Het for two albino strains) decreases the value of the gecko considerably. E het bell X normal het bell will atleast give you a redeyed enigma(bell enigma)

 

[geckoluv2187]

I was just curious because it seems like bell enigmas are much easier to find than tremper enigmas

 

[Ccrashca069]

what is aberrant patterned?

My hatchling are aberrant patterned. Picks are in Show-off your leopards and hatchling sections. They are very pretty but I am biased :main_laugh:

 

[SaSobek]

I was just curious because it seems like bell enigmas are much easier to find than tremper enigmas

im sure if you want one you can find one easily. just ask around :main_thumbsup:

 

[paulnj]

You are correct that bell line enigmas are more abundant. If you intend to buy a bell line enigma, feel free to PM me and I will surely help you come up with nice crosses that aren't making double hets purposely.

Matt makes a good point, both of us are working on tremper enigmas, as are many others.

 

[geckoluv2187]

thanks for all the info everybody!

 

[Gregg M]

Matt makes a good point, both of us are working on tremper enigmas, as are many others.

And soon I will too Paul...:main_thumbsup:

 

[Gazz]

what would be the outcome of
enigma het bell x aptor tremper het RAPTOR

Would they still be enigmas? Or would they be normals?

You can still go down this root you just need to get rid of the tremper gene.So what you would be looking for is a eclipse that the breeder knows 100% IS'T het tremper albino.

Enigma het bell X Eclipse.

half aberrant patterned / 50% het bell/ 100% het eclipse

half enigma/ 50% het bell / 100% het eclipse.

In rought genetics by most people standeds a Eclipse is a NON albino RAPTOR.

Eclipse.
http://www.geckosetc.com/images/avail/Available Pictures/ECF1_600.jpg
http://www.geckosetc.com/images/avail/Available Pictures/ECF1_Leye_600.jpg

Albino eclipse-(RAPTOR).
http://www.geckosetc.com/images/avail/Available Pictures/RPF24_600.jpg
http://www.geckosetc.com/images/avail/Available Pictures/RPF24_Leye_600.jpg

 

[tangerineman]

am i confused?

don't you mean ECLIPSE 100% NOT het for tremper?