Define a couple things for me...

[S-K]

This is just a dumb question...and probably beating a dead horse. Searching didn't net me anything good...but then again, I'm tired =P

I'm trying to decipher a few things...mainly:

Bell vs Tremper, and what the HECK is a hybino? Be gentle...the morph thing is new to me, so I'm trying to learn...

Also, a friend owns a small store, so I am looking at getting into small-scale breeding for him. Currently I have two SHTCTBs (one male, one female from same parents), a male normal tang, and an unsexed that appears to be a normal patty/possible baldy(too young for my uncertain eyes to tell...also has some orange forming in the tail...). Just wondering if crosses would just lead me to hets, or if I get a pretty little het for my SHTCTB what might come of it.

Thanks!

 

[Ipsl]

Bell, Tremper, and Rainwater are 3 different albino strands. Im reallt tired too sorry I cant help more

 

[okapi]

There are three distinct albino lines: tremper, bell, and rainwater. The three are caused by different mutations so breeding them to eachother does not produce albinos. The tremper albino gene was discovered by Ron Tremper, the bell gene by Mark bell, and the rainwater is also called las vegas because that is where Mr rainwater lived.

A hybino is a hypo tangerine albino.

SHTCTB X SHTCTB = more SHTCTB. These will hatch out banded and tangerine but will loose their bands and spots as they grow.

SHTCTB X tang = tangerine with some hypo and carrot tail influence.

Murphy patternless are completely patternless as adults. As hatchlings they have a faint dotted line from their head down their back but that fades away before they reach adulthood. Sometimes they have a little bit of carroting on the tail as well. Patternless are not called "baldy" because that is the norm for that mutation.

SHTCTB X Patty = hatchlings with some hypo, tangerine, and carrot tail influence het patty.

Unless your SHTCTB is het for something, it would be best to just breed it to SHTCT and SHTCTB.

 

[S-K]

Here's the unsexed little one in question:

He's probably at MAX 3-4wks old. I just couldn't leave him there =\ I won't be able to breed ANY of them for a few months yet, except my largest/oldest male (SHTCTB), who will be ready in about a month. The reason I ask about crossing is I have come across a tangerine tremper that is roughly his age, and I am thinking about picking her up...So my curiosity is peaked.

Again, I'd be doing this basically just to supply my friend's store on a small-scale once it got rolling, so I'd really need only one breeding pair...and that may even overwelm his need, heh...

 

[acpart]

Something to think about if you're considering doing some breeding for a local pet store. If you breed something very fancy, you may price yourself out of the pet store (or have to sell something fancy for little money). Many people going into a pet store want a cute leo for a pet and don't know from morphs. They will not want to pay $100 for something fancy. Thisis something I have to take into account in my breeding since I sell to a lot of people just looking for a nice pet. You may not want to breed the siblings, although there's nothing wrong with that. If you breed one of the SHCT's to the normal you'll probably get geckos with a range from more to less spotted. If you feed them well and take good care of them, the pet store will be very impressed at how alert, active and large they are and that will be a very good selling point.

Aliza

 

[okapi]

That is a murphy patternless. The faint pattern will fade over the next few months.

 

[S-K]

I am friends with the owner of the particular store in question...and honestly, I'm not after it for the money. He hooks me up on products, I'll hook him up on geckos ^_~

If something spectacular comes out I'll be keeping it anyway =P

Right now of the only breeders in the imediate area, one has only "high-dollar" ($80+ retail level) morphs, and the other sells exclusively to chain stores. I'm hoping to get him going on a level that he can price on par with the chain stores, regardless of morph. If something too fancy to sell for $30 retail comes up, one of us can always source a buyer. He also does a lot of business online, shipping cross-state/cross-country, so it should work out decently.

 

[S-K]

OK...So how about this one...

If I go SHTCTB x SHTCT (het APTOR), what kind of results am I looking at? My odds of actually producing APTORs would be low, but not non-existant, correct?

The SHTCT (het APTOR) is only a maybe right now. However, I *will* be picking up a Bell (het blizzard/red stripe). Am I just going to make a bunch of het mutts? lol

 

[Mel&Keith]

SHTCT x SHTCT het APTOR = SHTCT 50% possible het Tremper Albino
Breeding those back to the SHTCT het APTOR parent would give you some albinos and some non-albinos all with patterns varying from (possibly but not necessarily) banded, jungle, stripe, hypo, reverse stripe, and patternless stripe.

There's a debate about how Red Stripe genes work so with that in mind...
SHTCTB x Bell het Bliz/RS = Hypos het Bell 50% possible het Blizzard and Stripe. (If you assume that stripe is recessive)

 

[S-K]

So what about breeding back the Bell (het bliz/rs)? Similar results, no? Some albino/some not, but not as much variation in patterns?

 

[Mel&Keith]

Basically.

 

[S-K]

Thanks =)