Deworming dosages.

[gitrdone0420]

Ok, please tell me if my math is correct on this dosage for deworming!
I am trying to help someone who rescued two leos, so I checked their stool and they do in fact have pinworms. So, I am going to use panacur to deworm them. This dosage for reptiles is 100mg/kg and the suspension of the panacur is 100mg/mL. So first I have to convert kg to g. So, if the leos weigh 35g, then converted to kg it is 0.035kg. Then I would have to multiply that by the dosage which is 100mg/kg so I get 3.5mg. And then if I go back to my suspension, I get 0.035mL. So, I should give 0.035mL

Lol, has anyone ever used this dose for their leos? I will double check with the vet, but the vets here dont do reptiles, so yall would probably know better lol! I know panacur is extremely safe, I just want to double check.
Also, anyone ever deal with adverse reactions with panacur so I can be prepared? I used Baytril (Which is suppose to be really safe too) on one of my leos and of course the one reptile in history to have a bad reaction >.<

So... Just wondering if anyone wants to add in their two cents =]

 

[Adinar]

Unfortunetally I don't trust my math to help with the conversion on dosage. 3 of mine were on Panacure and didn't have any reactions. Was pretty much safe all around. I did notice toawrds the end of their cycle that they seemed to be eatting more slurry and were a bit more alert and energetic.

We also used to use Panacure at the animal shelter I worked at years ago on dogs and cats, never had any issues.

 

[snared99]

I really do not get involved to much in these situations but I simply have to correct you. Baytril is NOT a 100% safe drug, it just happens to be one of the only antibiotics that seems to work with reptiles. With a improper dose baytril can kill a animal. Panacur on the other hand is alot safer, but im not 100% sure it is necessary here. How bad was the pinworm loads? You do know the leo is not a definite host for the pinworm right? Meaning it is sort of a sick relationship t has with a leo, andin fact a good number of leos have them. There is no way to get around pinworm if your feeding crickets or mealworms. But if the loads are not that bad it is not always a need to run out and deworm.

Not that im not a adovcate of deworming, but less drugs is always better. I appologize if i have offended you or given you info you may already know.

As far as the dose for the panacur, I sorry i can not help you for it is against the law and I would lose my license as a Vet Tech. But there are many sources that can assist you if your hellbend on deworming.

One last question-What did you use to do your fecal-Zinc Sulfite? Cause if not you could have missed the ever popular coccidea and the panacur would do nothing.

 

[JordanAng420]

I really do not get involved to much in these situations but I simply have to correct you. Baytril is NOT a 100% safe drug, it just happens to be one of the only antibiotics that seems to work with reptiles. With a improper dose baytril can kill a animal. Panacur on the other hand is alot safer, but im not 100% sure it is necessary here. How bad was the pinworm loads? You do know the leo is not a definite host for the pinworm right? Meaning it is sort of a sick relationship t has with a leo, andin fact a good number of leos have them. There is no way to get around pinworm if your feeding crickets or mealworms. But if the loads are not that bad it is not always a need to run out and deworm.

Not that im not a adovcate of deworming, but less drugs is always better. I appologize if i have offended you or given you info you may already know.

As far as the dose for the panacur, I sorry i can not help you for it is against the law and I would lose my license as a Vet Tech. But there are many sources that can assist you if your hellbend on deworming.

One last question-What did you use to do your fecal-Zinc Sulfite? Cause if not you could have missed the ever popular coccidea and the panacur would do nothing.

As a fellow vet tech, I just wanted to add that this is a great post! Many people do not realize that it's illegal to be giving dosages for medication over the net (and illegal to be giving medication without being under direction of a licenced veterinarian), and those of us that are certified could lose our licence in doing so.

 

[gitrdone0420]

I really do not get involved to much in these situations but I simply have to correct you. Baytril is NOT a 100% safe drug, it just happens to be one of the only antibiotics that seems to work with reptiles. With a improper dose baytril can kill a animal. Panacur on the other hand is alot safer, but im not 100% sure it is necessary here. How bad was the pinworm loads? You do know the leo is not a definite host for the pinworm right? Meaning it is sort of a sick relationship t has with a leo, andin fact a good number of leos have them. There is no way to get around pinworm if your feeding crickets or mealworms. But if the loads are not that bad it is not always a need to run out and deworm.

Not that im not a adovcate of deworming, but less drugs is always better. I appologize if i have offended you or given you info you may already know.

As far as the dose for the panacur, I sorry i can not help you for it is against the law and I would lose my license as a Vet Tech. But there are many sources that can assist you if your hellbend on deworming.

One last question-What did you use to do your fecal-Zinc Sulfite? Cause if not you could have missed the ever popular coccidea and the panacur would do nothing.

I actually did not say that Baytril was 100% safe, but according to my veterinarian, it is relatively safe in treating reptiles. Maybe I should have quoted him in this post to be clear. I understand the need to not have to deworm just because a few pinworms are found in a fecal float, however these leos are LOADED and since they are in pretty bad shape and malnourished from the people they were rescued from, I dont think it is a terrible idea to go ahead with the deworming.
And I guess I am more or so asking for a checking on my conversion factor. There is no need for anyone to get paranoid about giving out dosages here, since the actual dosage is pretty easily accessible.

I did a simple fecal float with the regular fecal-sol here at work, I am not terribly sure of the brand name off the top of my head. No coccidia was found.
Thanks for your help and concern.

 

[JordanAng420]

There is no need for anyone to get paranoid about giving out dosages here, since the actual dosage is pretty easily accessible.

That's fine, but what we are trying to tell you is that as licenced vet techs we cannot legally give you a dose for a medication that is to be dispensed by a vet. We're not being "paranoid", we're just letting you know that it's against the law for ANYONE to be dosing medications of any kind over the internet...

If something DID happen (god forbid) to one of your animals, and it was because one of us gave you the wrong dose for a medication we're not even sure it needs, all of a sudden it becomes OUR responsibility...

Really, i'm not trying to put you in a bad position, i'm just protecting my certification. Since you said it's easily accessible, you should have no problem finding the dose. I'm sure that if you asked a vet, he/she would be more than happy to confirm it.

 

[snared99]

I dont think anyone is getting paranoid at all, they were simple questions. Plus why wouldnt the vet just help you????

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

If you do not take your gecko to the vet for a correct diagnosis and medication (with the dosage), you can always spend the money on the book: "Understanding Reptile Parasites" by Roger Klingenberg, DVM.

 

[Kristi23]

If you do not take your gecko to the vet for a correct diagnosis and medication (with the dosage), you can always spend the money on the book: "Understanding Reptile Parasites" by Roger Klingenberg, DVM.

This is a great book and very helpful. It's not very expensive at all and is a great resource to have at home.

Since panacur is available over the counter, would that still matter with giving proper dosages? I know I bought some online to have here just incase. I can totally understand on the baytril because you need a prescription to buy it.

 

[Ratman667]

I found that book anywhere from $1.10 to $340.00 plus shipping. Just depends on where you look.

I think the problem that everyone is having, is how she worded the question. While Panacur is available OTC, a proper dosage is still needed to insure the safety of the animals. The question should have just been the math without any other information, then no one would have had anything to worry about.

To answer you, yes your math is correct. As far as I can tell anyways.

 

[ILoveGeckos14]

With Panacur .01cc per 10g of gecko that's what I was told by my vet. If it's 15g just round up to 20g and do .02cc for example. This is just for reference and not to be substituted for your own vet's advice though!

 

[gitrdone0420]

Thank you for the advice on the book! That was really helpful.

Also, thank you for the advice on the dosages!.

The vet that I work for is strictly, "If I do not see the animal, I have nothing to do with it... and I dont see reptiles..." So, not very helpful for me... lol.

 

[Clink]

Would it be liquid panacur? Powder?
How is it administered?
I keep meaning to get panacur and there are so many products out there I dont know what to do...haha.

 

[ILoveGeckos14]

Would it be liquid panacur? Powder?
How is it administered?
I keep meaning to get panacur and there are so many products out there I dont know what to do...haha.

If you suspect your animals need panacur I would take a trip to the vet just to make sure I was treating the right thing. They can also tell you how to administer the medication if needed.

 

[Clink]

sounds like a safer bet to me. I am planning a trip to the vet in october anyway, so that will be on top of my questions.
haha, thanks!