Does My Leopard Gecko Look Healthy To You?

[moefv]

Hey guys and girls! I wanted a second opinion other than my own. Does my Leopard Gecko look healthy? I took a few pics of him and of his tail! Feedback would gladly be appreciated! God Bless - Moefv

http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/72859856@N08/8068045013/
http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/72859856@N08/8081554291/
http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/72859856@N08/8081557685/

 

[garner63080]

Doesnt look unhealthy. He could use a little bit fatter tail. But looks good over all to me!

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[katie_]

Links dont work for me.

 

[moefv]

Links dont work for me.

Try the link without the m.

 

[sausage]

It might just be the picture angle but the middle pic tail dose look like it could be meatier, however the last picture looks real good lol
Is there something your worried about?

 

[moefv]

It might just be the picture angle but the middle pic tail dose look like it could be meatier, however the last picture looks real good lol
Is there something your worried about?

Yes he is hardly eating his mealies. I don't know of he doesn't like them anymore or if I should try feeding him supers. You know switch it up a bit. Any advice? All in all he is drinking his water regularly and licking his calcium once in awhile. Thanks for the help/input! God Bless - Moefv

 

[Embrace Calamity]

Yes he is hardly eating his mealies. I don't know of he doesn't like them anymore or if I should try feeding him supers. You know switch it up a bit. Any advice? All in all he is drinking his water regularly and licking his calcium once in awhile. Thanks for the help/input! God Bless - Moefv

What about crickets? Supers are nice on occasion (and wouldn't hurt here since it wouldn't kill him to gain some weight), but if you're looking to switch from mealies, crickets might be a better option.

Also, does he have access to belly heat? I've read (though I can't personally verify this) that if they eat a lot of mealies and don't have heat to their bellies, they'll have trouble digesting all the chitin.

~Maggot

 

[moefv]

He does have belly heat. His hot side is always between 88-92 degrees. He is pooping regularly and healthy and I checked today abd he has eaten some mealies. I will be going today hopefully to buy him supers. I don't like crickets just because they smell a lot. Thanks for the input! God Bless - Moefv

 

[SC Geckos]

What about crickets? Supers are nice on occasion (and wouldn't hurt here since it wouldn't kill him to gain some weight), but if you're looking to switch from mealies, crickets might be a better option.

Supers are fine as a staple for an adult leo (I like medium supers). I know of a few breeders that use supers for all there adults. As long as you properly gutload them like any other feeder.

 

[Embrace Calamity]

Supers are fine as a staple for an adult leo (I like medium supers). I know of a few breeders that use supers for all there adults. As long as you properly gutload them like any other feeder.

I was informed by a lot of people that they're too high in fat. Is that not true?

He does have belly heat. His hot side is always between 88-92 degrees. He is pooping regularly and healthy and I checked today abd he has eaten some mealies. I will be going today hopefully to buy him supers. I don't like crickets just because they smell a lot. Thanks for the input! God Bless - Moefv

They don't really smell if you keep them in something that's kept clean. I have a tank of them in my bathroom, and I never notice any smell.

~Maggot

 

[sausage]

I must say i kinda agree that crickets smell and locusts but i think thats mainly to do with what you feed them and also cleaning the feeders out, its hard lol
I understand what you mean about switching up the food, mine go through periods of deciding the dont like their current food. fussy gits. but they will eat when they get hungry enough

 

[garner63080]

Of youre looking for a change, try dubia roaches.

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[SC Geckos]

I was informed by a lot of people that they're too high in fat. Is that not true?

from what I read, Supers are in the middle as far as fat compared to other feeders. (not the highest and not the lowest)
They have very close to the same protien content as crickets and mealworms.
Crickets are good feeders with the exception of phosphorous content... they have the highest out of the popular feeders and supers have the lowest.

They don't really smell if you keep them in something that's kept clean. I have a tank of them in my bathroom, and I never notice any smell.

Crickets smell really bad no matter what you do IMO. Even in a brand new tub..... Nasty.
I think the best feeders for leos are mealies, dubias, or supers (in that order) JMO and not fact. Supers, dubias should be of course the proper size for the animal.

 

[chastity]

Crickets smell really bad no matter what you do IMO. Even in a brand new tub..... Nasty.

we have two containers of them. one of big ones and one of small ones and i gag every time i open the cages even if they're JUST cleaned. for a while i refused to feed with the large crickets because they're so stinky. :main_lipsrsealed:

 

[SORROW89]

I was informed by a lot of people that they're too high in fat. Is that not true?They don't really smell if you keep them in something that's kept clean. I have a tank of them in my bathroom, and I never notice any smell.

~Maggot

You're right. The fat amount is not far from waxworms. They are not good as staple and they don't gutload well either.
http://www.grubco.com/nutritional_information.cfm

 

[katie_]

I use supers as a staple and have had zero problems. Many other people do as well. Supers arent that far off from mealworms if you want to get technical.

 

[SC Geckos]

The fat amount is not far from waxworms. They are not good as staple and they don't gutload well either.

Your statement on supers not being a good staple is your opinion and not fact.
The fat content is not far from mealies either. lol!
You can gut load supers just as well as most other feeders and they are fine for a staple as long as you use the proper size for the particular leo.

 

[SORROW89]

Your statement on supers not being a good staple is your opinion and not fact.
The fat content is not far from mealies either. lol!
You can gut load supers just as well as most other feeders and they are fine for a staple as long as you use the proper size for the particular leo.

It's not an opinion when the proof is right in front of you. All you have to do is compare the values of all insects.

 

[Embrace Calamity]

Your statement on supers not being a good staple is your opinion and not fact.
The fat content is not far from mealies either. lol!
You can gut load supers just as well as most other feeders and they are fine for a staple as long as you use the proper size for the particular leo.

Well out of curiosity, I did a little (not extensive) research.

Fat content of mealworms: 12.72% Waxworms: 22.19% Superworms: 17.89%

http://chamownersweb.net/insects/nutritional_values.htm


Fat content of mealworms: 13.64% Waxworms: 20.12% Superworms: 15.07%

http://www.angelfire.com/tx/facehugger/insect.html


Superworms are comprised of 59% moisture, 19% protein, 15% fat, 6% carbohydrate, and 1% ash.

http://www.reptilerevolution.com/reptile-feeders/reptile-feeders.html


Amount per serving:
Mositure: 60%
Fiber: 6.8%
Protein: 17.4%
Fat: 17.9%

http://www.aroclubindonesia.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-2110.html


Fat content of mealworms: 12.72% waxworms: 22.19% supers: 17.89%

http://www.grubco.com/nutritional_information.cfm


There isn't a lot on their nutritional value out there, especially 'cause a lot of the sites are calling mealworms superworms. But it looks like they're at least about somewhere in the middle.

~Maggot

 

[Cesar_Da_KIng]

It's not an opinion when the proof is right in front of you. All you have to do is compare the values of all insects.

Are we really gonna have this debate again? Just be quiet while your ahead.