Dominant Hypo/ghost

Lottiz

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I have to find out a few things about the mack snow ghosts I posted in this thread:

http://www.geckoforums.net/showthread.php?p=161832#post161832

Maybe they are just ms tremper, maybe they are ms ghosts or maybe both. But if I've got things right this type of hypo is dominant? So one of the parents have to show ghost.

The pairning is;
MS het albino (female)+Hyglo AM-line (male).
So, the female is NOT ghost. Where did the ghost gene came from? I know Alberto have told us there is no hypo genes in Hyglo but I'm very confused now...

Please help me out here.
 

Gregg M

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Lottiz.
Who is to say those are going to turn out to be hypos or ghosts???

Lottiz said:
I have to find out a few things about the mack snow ghosts I posted in this thread:

http://www.geckoforums.net/showthread.php?p=161832#post161832

Maybe they are just ms tremper, maybe they are ms ghosts or maybe both. But if I've got things right this type of hypo is dominant? So one of the parents have to show ghost.

The pairning is;
MS het albino (female)+Hyglo AM-line (male).
So, the female is NOT ghost. Where did the ghost gene came from? I know Alberto have told us there is no hypo genes in Hyglo but I'm very confused now...

Please help me out here.
 

Lottiz

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In the thread I gave a link to, Gazz wroth:

IMO all dark Tremper mack snow poss a dark Tremper snow ghost.

so, if they are ghost, where did it come from? Or are they all just ms tremper?
 
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More pics of the girls :)
What are we thinking now of the morph? Mack Snow Tremper Albino ?

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-Erika
 

snared99

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From my understanding "ghost" is a fancy name for the rayhines hypo(or any hypo gene) to be crossed into any snow gene. The ghost was most popular with the mack snow but can be seen with any snow combo with the hypo gene present. just my 2cents
 

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Lottiz said:
And eclipse?? I know it's a lot of raptor hets in AM's Hygloline...

I'd say there mack tremper albinos.With regard to the hypo part maybe wait till there more mature but IMO hyglows are hypo of strain so i think you can expect some mack hypo type but time will tell for sure.The eyes ? though A&M i beleave have bred the eclipse gene into there hyglow's remember you need to breed two het eclipse's to get eclipse offspring.So is that the case ? is your female mack snow het albino & eclipse ?? so if the hyglow is het eclipse os there somthing to click too.IMO I think you've just had a early release of the mack super snow eye gene giving you a partial eclipse look But IMO not Tremper eclipse.Now you have this gene in your snows you can pass it onto other snows and blizzards.
 
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Lottiz

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I've been in contact with Alex Hue and he don't think this is a tremper course:

"But as far as the albinos...we didnt sell any possible hets, we kept all of the possible and 100%'s for ourselfs in order to make ms albinos and mss albinos."

But in that case he is wrong. The mack snow female I bought IS het albino. A brother to this dark girls is a typical mack snow tremper:
http://www.rainbowreptiles.se/msm02.html

I asked him about the snake eye too and this is his explaination:

"The dark eyes can be from my pinstripe line. I used my pinstripe lines to make mack combos, turns out my pinstripe line is also a black eyed line. May possibly be compatible with eclipse, raptor, or aptor. But I dont know for sure, I never bred them to any eclipse, raptor or aptor.

My pinstripes looks just like a non-albino raptor. I bred alot of my pinstripes into my mack snows in order to produce high contrast ms bold stripes, ms stripes, ms pinstripes...etc, just like I did with the ghost genes...I used the pinstripe genes in alot of my mack projects.

What your gecko looks like is a ms ghost and maybe eclipse, I'm guessing maybe eclipse because one of the parents was a hyglo.

Here is a pic of my pinstripes now after 3 generations.....all my pinstripes now have black eyes, all of my MS pinstripes, MS high contrast bold stripes, MS stripes.....have black eyes.

http://www.alexhuereptiles.com/siteimages/collection/forumpics/3.JPG

http://www.alexhuereptiles.com/siteimages/collection/forumpics/4.JPG "

I think we have to try this darling out to be sure. Alex think he is a non albino ghost. I don't agree...I think she is an albino...

/Lottiz
 
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Gazz

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Lottiz said:
Here is a pic of my pinstripes now after 3 generations.....all my pinstripes now have black eyes, all of my MS pinstripes, MS high contrast bold stripes, MS stripes.....have black eyes.

http://www.alexhuereptiles.com/siteimages/collection/forumpics/3.JPG

http://www.alexhuereptiles.com/siteimages/collection/forumpics/4.JPG "

/Lottiz

That to me regardless of the name pinstipe it's a eclipse patternless stripe.Due to the black eyes PLUS the white nose it's to much of a coincidence for me to think other wise.So if Alex bred eclipse patternless striped into his macks and there a small possiblity that that your hyglow may have eclipse blood as A&M have bred there eclipse into there hyglows.There is a very small chance that your mack's could be Tremper albino eclipse mack snow ????.So you need a mate now to prove it out.I'm sure you can find one with all the lovly leo's you own :main_thumbsup: .
 

Bodon

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Either way, i love those partial snake eyes. i just think they look so cool.
 

Lottiz

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I love eclipse too. I hope I can get a group of Alex's black eye non albino pinstripes. Non albino, no hets eclipse are very rare. Something for my enigma het bells...
 

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