Dreamsicle help

DelaneyRobert87

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New Hampshire
This is my first year breeding and I have only been working with the SHTCT, Electric and Blood hypos. I am looking to expand a little within the next few months and would like to add some white colors to a brand new project for me. I have been doing what I can for research but I am unable to find everything I need answered. I know the dreamsicle consists of the enigma, raptor and mack snow morph. So where should I start? What would be the best geckos to get? Any information would be appreciated.

Rob
 

Enigmatic_Reptiles

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Depends on how much you want to spend. Cheapest route (without using hets) is a Nova x Mack Raptor...best insurance on producing dreams is Super Nova x Raptor. I personally went the route of building up my own crosses for a few generations before finally producing them. Enigma is a flawed gene that when line bred too much it only amplifies the issue. It was the longer route but in the end I was able to maintain higher whites in my adults. If you can afford a Dream then get the nicest one you can afford and pair him with some Raptors. Just remember, ALL projects are going to reflect quality of the parents. Cheaping out on breeders will only result in less pronounced lines of babies. QUALITY IS EVERYTHING. Here is an example of one of our Dreams (when we worked with Trempers);
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As a baby
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Good luck and have fun with your project
 

DelaneyRobert87

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New Hampshire
Excellent thank you very much. I was planning on getting a supersnow pos het raptor from ray at designer geckos (waiting on him to be of weight) as I am also obtaining 3 Albino Enigma's het raptor and a snow raptor. Will breeding this male to these females have a potential chance of popping out dremesicles? By the way great looking gecko!
 

Enigmatic_Reptiles

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I strongly suggest not working with pos hets if you have a specific animal in mind. Anything you hatch that is not a visual is not worth holding back because the odds are not in your favor for hitting genetics. With all the Raptor stuff out there I am sure you can find something really good for a great price. PH are good for cutting edge projects where no one has visuals...but with raptors its just not worth it.
 

Fencer04

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Mastic Beach, NY
I strongly suggest not working with pos hets if you have a specific animal in mind. Anything you hatch that is not a visual is not worth holding back because the odds are not in your favor for hitting genetics. With all the Raptor stuff out there I am sure you can find something really good for a great price. PH are good for cutting edge projects where no one has visuals...but with raptors its just not worth it.

I totally agree with the above statement. You can get RAPTOR stuff pretty inexpensively and you'll know what you have and what you are producing. Very important for a breeder.
 

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