Eclipse or Not...you tell me....

[Retribution Reptiles]

 

[Enigmatic_Reptiles]

It appears to be. The nose is saying no but the eye is saying yes. What was the pairing? I have had non eclipse pairings throw out random eye pigmentation (all which have proven non genetic).

 

[im faster]

Looksto be..

But on your camera turn the setting for wb or white balance to auto

 

[Retribution Reptiles]

Thanks for the opinions. Not ready to release the parents yet but they are both 100% not from eclipse lines. 2 years ago we hatched out a snake eyed gecko from Redstripe non het x Bold Stripe Bell. We proved that to being genetic as she produced Radars for us. So I'm hoping that lightning strikes twice for us.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

There are LOTS of hidden eclipse genes floating around...

 

[Landen]

I strongly believe that the eye pigment and white nose/legs can be shown independently. Several characteristics found in a nice Eclipse, but after being bred away from other eclipse's, can pop back up individually. I've got a snow that was produced by two proven het eclipse parents, it shows eclipse snake eyes very clearly but absolutely no white to the nose or arms.

It'd be alot easier to speculate if we knew what the parents were though

 

[Retribution Reptiles]

LOL well Landen I gave enough of the genetics. Well the important part anyway LMAO

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

Not ready to release the parents yet but they are both 100% not from eclipse lines.

It'd be alot easier to speculate if we knew what the parents were though

LOL well Landen I gave enough of the genetics. Well the important part anyway LMAO

Well then, I would think the gecko is not an eclipse. LMAO

 

[Retribution Reptiles]

Well then, I would think the gecko is not an eclipse. LMAO

Ok let's put a hole in that logic for you then. Radar x Radar should equal Radar. How do you explain the 5 lil ones I have from that pairing that exhibit NO eye pigmentation nor any other signs of being from an Eclipse line. The one that did have any eye pigmentation has a marble/shatter eyed look to it.

 

[Enigmatic_Reptiles]

eclipses don't always visually express. 5 from one pairing sounds like something else may be up with them.

 

[Gazz]

I've got a snow that was produced by two proven het eclipse parents, it shows eclipse snake eyes very clearly but absolutely no white to the nose.

Then i wouldn't call it a Eclipse eye snow,
You most likely have a Tinted eye snow Poss-HET Eclipse eye.

Tinted eye is a random eye trait most often seen in Blizards and snows, Sometimes also in other morphs, Unlike Eclipse eye, Tinted eye has no genetic or cash valu, It's like the poor mans Eclipse eye.

Eclipse eye is a Recessive eye trait, With white wash nose being a ID tag, Sometimes very small it looks as if there no white wash. However white washed feet, Legs, tail tips are not linked to Eclipse eye, As there quite a few leo's out there with no Eclipse eye ancestory with white washed feet, Legs'etc.

 

[Gazz]

Based on how the nose looks, And that you said it's not from Eclipse eye ancestory, I'll say it's Tinted eye.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

Unlike Eclipse eye, Tinted eye has no genetic or cash value, It's like the poor mans Eclipse eye.

LOL!!! Or in my case with my blizzards, the 'poor woman's eclipse'...

 

[Gazz]

LOL!!! Or in my case with my blizzards, the 'poor woman's eclipse'...

So sorry!, That wasn't very pc of me, Poor persons Eclipse eye:main_thumbsup:.

 

[yellermelon]

Marcia I know the pairing, it's deffinatly NOT a mixed in eclipse gene...

 

[Retribution Reptiles]

But Gazz how you can explain Red Stripe x Bold Stripe Bell giving me an eclipsed eye? I have since proven that it was genetic when I hatched an eclipse and a Radar.

 

[Landen]

Then i wouldn't call it a Eclipse eye snow

It came from an Eclipse female and a SS proven het for eclipse. What's random about that? I'm keeping her, so we'll see what she produces next year :main_laugh:

Tinted eye huh.... too many terms if you ask me...

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

OK, I'm easily confused. I thought we were talking about the gecko in the OP's photo who's parents are a mystery but NOT from Eclipses. How many different "eclipse" scenarios going on here? So far we have:

1. Ryan's "Not ready to release the parents yet but they are both 100% not from eclipse lines.

2. Ryan's "2 years ago we hatched out a snake eyed gecko from Redstripe non het x Bold Stripe Bell"

4. Ryan's "Radar x Radar should equal Radar. How do you explain the 5 lil ones I have from that pairing that exhibit NO eye pigmentation nor any other signs of being from an Eclipse line"

5. Chris' "I know the pairing, it's deffinatly NOT a mixed in eclipse gene..."

6. Landen's "It came from an Eclipse female and a SS proven het for eclipse"

Soooooo... if the gecko we are supposed to be talking about in the photo did NOT come from any genetic eclipse influence, then it isn't an eclipse. Just like my blizzards that have eyes like that are not eclipses. What's all the other stuff people are talking about?

 

[Gazz]

It came from an Eclipse female and a SS proven het for eclipse. What's random about that? I'm keeping her, so we'll see what she produces next year :main_laugh:

Tinted eye huh.... too many terms if you ask me...

You said, And i quote.

I've got a snow that was produced by two proven het eclipse parents,

Anyway that's not the point i was getting at. Fact there is a iris black out trait in Snows, Tinted eye(false eclipse eye), That is common and random in the snow morphs. So if you have a snow that has iris black out, It dosen't always make it a Eclipse eye snow, The only 100% way to get a 100% no ifs, Buts, Or maybes, Is(Example) from a Eclipse eye snow X Eclipse eye snow breeding, Coz you know 100% all the Snow offspring will be Eclipse eye snow.

 

[KelliH]

Whatever you do, DO NOT name that gecko Black Eyed Pea!