Enigma het tremper X Raptor

[goReptiles]

Love the eclipse baby. Too bad about the other little guy though.

 

[lion lizard]

its too bad about the other one but I hope that there will be more to follow, alive and healthy.

Maybe there is some sort of Eclipse gene in the Enigma or the genetics are behaving weird due to the raptor I crossed it with. i really don't know.

 

[DLS Reptile]

enigma

It seams that the enigma gene is very vulnerable to late embryo death. This along with the problems people are having with this morph is strange. I have seen many threads in the past month and talked to people that are losing these guys right before they hatch. does anybody have a clue as to why this is???

 

[lion lizard]

its already my third enigma baby that I have lost just before hatching and this one made it halfway through the egg and died before coming out. It really is strange though.

 

[Stevie]

All these colour and pattern traits have nothing to do with nature what so ever. Because there's an entire different selective pressure on these animals (the breeder decides which animals mate with each other and not 'nature'). Not the strongest animals survive and breed, but the most colorful animals. Due to this, animals can grow weaker and die. On the other hand, perhaps when to much 'weird' genes are mixed together, some of these combinations can be lethal in different kinds of stages of embryonic development. And maybe it is a bit hard to say, but I think it's for the better that some animals die young, because it's obvious that they are not healthy animals. As a breeder you don't want such 'weak genes' in your population, but only the strong, healthy and good animals. It's a shame though because they look so nice, but in the end everyone is better off this way....

Greets,

Stevie

 

[godzillizard]

It could also be due to the blizzard gene--I got a striped LV het Blizzard male with snake eyes, back in '06. Mack snow and blizzard can all cause partial or solid eyes in "intermediate" form animals. At least, i've seen "eclipse" eyes in mack snows het Blizzard, LVs het blizzard, and in alot of the mack snow blizzards out there. When you combine the Blizzard gene with other genes, (especially Mack snow) it can cause a much higher incidence of black eyed offspring-similar to whats happening with all the black-eyed Mack Enigmas currently hatching out. It's as if the genes that aren't being visibly/fully expressed, are partially expressing themselves?!? I can't wait, this year is going to be incredibly revealing. I'm a firm believer that some "genes" act as adjuvants when combined with other genes, exponentially increasing their effects. Like how red eyes first emerged from patternless stripe Trempers. That's my best guess :main_huh: