Enigma or just Blizzard het

[imbrad2003]

Hi all! I produced a double het this year from a Bell Albino Female (amazing yellow eyes) crossed with a Blizzard Male (full double eclipse eyes).

The offspring came out pretty amazing, I have heard of blizzard hets being kind of speckely but one almost looks enigma to me (especially the head), the body on one of them has banding (but not really defined) with these amazing green bands, tail is almost completely blonde, no banding at all, I have had one of my friends that also breeds leopards take a look and he said the same thing, looks like it has enigma in it.

I will see if I can get a pic on soon

 

[robin]

do you have photos of the parents and babies? also bell albinos do not have yellow eyes.

 

[imbrad2003]

These are pics of the one hatchling

 

[imbrad2003]

Old Pics of the mother

 

[Gazz]

These are pics of the one hatchling

Super hypo enigma HET Balbino,Blizzard.

 

[robin]

well the ma sure looks like a bell (i do not see any strange color to them) and those eyes on that baby sure look enigmaish. the wash of color on the photos is kinda keeping me from seeing better but the eyes on that baby sure look enigma. what about the dad photos? can you try using your flash or taking the photos outside? so we can see the colors better?

 

[robin]

Super hypo enigma HET Balbino,Blizzard.

balbinoi? LOL


ok but tell me where the enigma comes from because those eyes on the ma look like normal bell eyes. an albino bell enigma generally have SUPER red eyes.

 

[robin]

ok i just started a thread and in it, it has a photo of a bell albino enigma

 

[Gazz]

balbino? LOL


ok but tell me where the enigma comes from because those eyes on the ma look like normal bell eyes. an albino bell enigma generally have SUPER red eyes.

Bell + Albino = B-albino = Balbino.

I'm going on what the offspring telling me.Mum doesn't look enigma to me.So that leaves Dad.But with him being blizzard you can't see the Enigma influance in the body.And with him having full tinted eyes you can't see the enigma influance in the eyes either.But that offsprings eyes say enigma to me.So Dad is a Blizzard hypo enigma.Or Mum was mated to a Hypo enigma and she has sperm stored from another mating.

 

[imbrad2003]

Right now pics

 

[robin]

from that pairing i would have to assume the father is a blizzard enigma. i personally have not seen any but thats the only thing i can come up with.

 

[robin]

Bell + Albino = B-albino = Balbino

they are called bell albinos

 

[imbrad2003]

Bell + Albino = B-albino = Balbino.

I'm going on what the offspring telling me.Mum doesn't look enigma to me.So that leaves Dad.But with him being blizzard you can't see the Enigma influance in the body.And with him having full tinted eyes you can't see the enigma influance in the eyes either.But that offsprings eyes say enigma to me.So Dad is a Blizzard hypo enigma.Or Mum was mated to a Hypo enigma and she has sperm stored from another mating.

The female I have had since she was just bigger than a hatchling, same as the father, both bought from seperate breeders, none of the other breeder males have been anywhere near her. All my animals are individually housed in a rach system and I introduce the males to the females, dont really know what to think at this point.

 

[Gazz]

The female I have had since she was just bigger than a hatchling, same as the father, both bought from seperate breeders, none of the other breeder males have been anywhere near her. All my animals are individually housed in a rach system and I introduce the males to the females, dont really know what to think at this point.

In that case there's two things.

1/You've mixed eggs in the incubator.

2/Your blizzard is also enigma.

 

[imbrad2003]

At this point I would have to say that the Blizzard has Enigma, He has always been sort of clumbsy, he doesnt circle or anything but his strike at food has always been a little off.

I have never heard of Blizzard Eclipse Enigma, like you said the eyes would have helped, but he is eclipse.

Is this another "BEE" LOL

 

[robin]

Is this another "BEE" LOL

it's the "other" white meat LOL

 

[imbrad2003]

I think I know what I will be doing with Him next season, Blizzard Eclipse Enigma x Raptor

50% Eclipse HET Tremper Albino, Blizzard

50% Enigma Eclipse HET Tremper Albino, Blizzard :main_thumbsup:

 

[Gazz]

but he is eclipse.

With him being blizzard is he Eclipse from Tremper line.Or is he Tinted a trait often see in blizzard that looks Eclipse but is not genetically the same as Eclipse.

 

[imbrad2003]

In this case I would have to say he has the black eyes from the Blizzard line, am I to take it that this doesnt count as "Eclipse" in the case of the Tremper Eclipse and all I would get is:

50% Normal HET Tremper Albino, Blizzard, Eclipse

50% Enigma HET Tremper Albino, Blizzard, Eclipse

 

[Gazz]

In this case I would have to say he has the black eyes from the Blizzard line, am I to take it that this doesnt count as "Eclipse" in the case of the Tremper Eclipse and all I would get is:

50% Normal HET Tremper Albino, Blizzard, Eclipse

50% Enigma HET Tremper Albino, Blizzard, Eclipse

Sorry but :main_thumbsup:.