ENIGMAS.... (Showing off/ need help)

Leopardgeckosunlimited

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Hello everyone, We haven't posted in a while, its been very busy as I'm sure a lot of you know. We are finally seeing some enigmas and we are excieted. First off, I am a little outdated with some of the new labels going around with some of the enigma morphs. Ecspecially the B.E.E. and the Eclipse Enigma. Are they the same or not? Here are three Enigmas that hatch in the last two weeks. The first Enigma is the one I need help on.

It is from a male Mack Enigma het RAPTOR x female RAPTOR (hatched today).
I am almost postive it is an (Mack??)Eclipse Enigma due to the solid black eyes and large amount of white on the nose(this is always a big tell tale of Eclipse for me, but since the Enigma is changeing all sorts of things I wanted to get others opinions. Also what I wanted to know about this gecko is if you guys think it is a Mack or not?

The second an thrid geckos are just for showing off. They came from our male Mack Enigma het RAPTOR x Giant Sunglow

The second is a female Giant Mack Enigma(week old)
The thrid is a Sunglow Enigma(two weeks old)

Sorry for the long thread and thank you in advance.

Henry
 
paulnj

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on that first one.... give it a few sheds and see if the color comes in or not. Believe it or not my best tremper enigma hatched looking like a mack as it was void of color. Today he is breeding wieght and has insane tangerine color right down to the 20% CT. Many of my enigmas hatched looking mack only to get color in a week.

Eclipse enigmas seem to be very dull in color from what I have seen and we all know macks are even duller.

I sure hope you are right and keep us posted.
 
paulnj

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Same thing... B.E.E is short for Black Eyed Enigma but is a eclipse enigma, not the Full eyed enigmas that pop up randomly mostly in mack enigmas.

SIDE NOTE
I hatched a full eyed tangerine enigma and no way on earth did that cross have the ability to make an eclipse animal. Those eyes faded overnight after the 3rd shed.

A mack snow eclipse enigma is also called a Blackhole BTW...easier to say and very catchy if you ask me.
 
Sol

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Yeah, it looks like a Blackhole (Mack Eclipse Enigma) to me, but I agree with Paul, wait a few sheds until you jump on it.
 
Leopardgeckosunlimited

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Thanks Sol and Danielle. BTW though this thread is from a yr ago, lol. I was surprised to see this thread. Yeah, she is a blackhole. Here are her pics from earlier this yr. They really change don't they!
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We also produced Nova's (a patternless Red Stripe Giant Nova that we held on to) and a Dreamsicle (both males) last yr that have also been breeding this season. They've produced some amazing gecko's for us this season! It's been a great season so far! I believe 12 hatchlings just over the past 5 days. Hopefully today I'll get a few pics of some '09 hatchlings to post! I have pics of some of our current breeder's (gecko's we produced last yr) and a few of our 2009 babies that you can check them out on our photobucket acct. here- http://s622.photobucket.com/albums/tt310/LeopardGeckosUnlimited/

Jessica
 
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