first leos 2008...morphs ?

[tamg]

hello,
This morning , I saw these leos on my incubator...
What's your opinion about ehm and can you confirm eacj morphs because ... I had a big discuss with someone !!! ;-)

 

[yellermelon]

What were the parents? With no info the first looks like a mack snow enigma, the second looks like a mack snow tremper.

 

[tamg]

mack snow enigma het.tremper ( father ) and mack snow poss.het.raptor ...but now , I'm sure what the mother is het.raptor !!

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

I agree with Chris! You have a Mack Snow Enigma poss. het Tremper and a Mack Tremper. Congratulations!

 

[tamg]

thank you

 

[tamg]

I forgot... the mack snow enigma has "two black" or "super snow" eyes.... is it posible what he is a super snow enigma ?????

 

[snared99]

Unfrotunetly he is not a super snow enigma:{ For some reason we are finding that the "super snow" eyes are poping up in the snow enigmas. But very interesting you have it on a het tremper, mine are all on the het bells. Keep us posted, nice babies!!

 

[Kristi23]

They're adorable! Congrats!!!

 

[Bridget1569]

They are beautiful. I love those Mack Snow babies :smitten:
Congrats!

 

[paulnj]

That's a mack snow enigma 66% het tremper/ 50% het eclipse

and a mack tremper 50% raptor

 

[tamg]

Thank you for your response Paul
Snared99 , thank you for you answer but I don't understand that :
"we are finding that the "super snow" eyes are poping up in the snow enigmas"


I post now the news born today :

What's your opinion about them ????

 

[Mel&Keith]

Normal Enigma 66% poss. het Tremper 50% poss. het Raptor and Super Snow 66% poss. het Tremper 50% poss. het Raptor. That's my guess anyway. But...does the Enigma have solid black eyes or does it just look that way in the photo?

For some reason the Mack Snow gene combined with the Enigma gene are making solid eyes without being Super Snows. For example, we hatched 2 Snow Bell Enigmas that have solid red eyes.

 

[popcikle]

I don't know anything about morphs, but those are awesome looking geckos!

 

[tamg]

Normal Enigma 66% poss. het Tremper 50% poss. het Raptor and Super Snow 66% poss. het Tremper 50% poss. het Raptor. That's my guess anyway. But...does the Enigma have solid black eyes or does it just look that way in the photo?

For some reason the Mack Snow gene combined with the Enigma gene are making solid eyes without being Super Snows. For example, we hatched 2 Snow Bell Enigmas that have solid red eyes.

lol...
the enigma is from enigma hypo het.paternless/het.stripe X shtct
the super snow is from mack snow het.raptor x mack snow poss.het.raptor

this enigma has two solid black eyes...for the moment !!!

Bell enigma , always , have solid red eyes, not ?

 

[paulnj]

well until you prove out the possible het raptor as het eclipse and or het tremper..... SS 50% het raptor. When the pos het proves out het tremper and eclipse the SS become 66% het raptor.

Bell enigmas hatch with red eyes, but have pupils just like any other bell. Some mack enigmas(as mentioned ) hatch with the full black eyes of a super snow. Whether or not it's the SS gene eyes or a new eye mutation is not proven as of yet, but I think the SS eye theory is safe to follow .

 

[Mel&Keith]

Ah, I thought the parents were the same ones mentioned the previous page, sorry. I'd say Hypo Tang Enigma 50% poss. het Patternless and Stripe then. Weird about the eyes though.

With the Bell Enigmas, their eyes are red but not solid. Sort of like they have on red contact lenses, you can see veining still. But our Mack Snow Bell have solid Ruby Red eyes like a SSB.