Future Breeding female--Morph????

[Embrace Calamity]

Breeding an unknown would be irrisponsible. But if you are going to do it anyway keep in mind by the time it's old enough to sell you will have invested more in food and suppliment than you can sell a baby for.

This person has repeatedly told people that calcium sand is safe, despite being told numerous times that's not true. Don't expect any less than irresponsibility.

~Maggot

 

[katie_]

Whats wrong with high yellows? Nothings wrong with them.
Will you be able to sell them? No.
I can buy "high yellows" and even hypos for my retail petstore for a $15 a gecko. They are everywhere. You wont make any money, which I assume is somewhat important to you.
Even people who breed high end quality geckos barely make money, if they even break even.
I believe only animals should be bred to better the whole collection, that includes geckos. Petstore geckos being bred to petstore geckos isnt helping leopard geckos as a whole. Like puppies, you shouldnt breed geckos just because its fun. They need homes too.
And about genetics from petstore geckos...IF your high yellows were bred by a breeder, and wholesaled to the petstore, they were still not good enough for that breeder to keep him/herself...they are PET quality.

 

[razorgecko1982]

This person has repeatedly told people that calcium sand is safe, despite being told numerous times that's not true. Don't expect any less than irresponsibility.

~Maggot

If you have a problem with the way I handle things talk to me in private message. But do NOT make a scene of it on this site. I can be very defensive when someone makes an example of me for everyone to see. I will not tolerate it in any form.

 

[Embrace Calamity]

If you have a problem with the way I handle things talk to me in private message. But do NOT make a scene of it on this site. I can be very defensive when someone makes an example of me for everyone to see. I will not tolerate it in any form.

Cool story, bro. Tell it again.

Point being, every single person here has said it's not a good idea to breed this gecko, and you're obviously planning on doing it anyway. There's no market for mediocre geckos. Yes, she's very pretty and I'm sure is a lovely pet, but there's no need to breed her.

~Maggot

 

[Lindz0518]

If you have a problem with the way I handle things talk to me in private message. But do NOT make a scene of it on this site. I can be very defensive when someone makes an example of me for everyone to see. I will not tolerate it in any form.

Getting defensive will get you no where. People are just telling you the truth. Personally I think you should own leopard geckos for a few years before you breed. I have kept leos as pets for 3 years and I still am learning everyday and wouldn't even attempt to breed because there is so much I do not know.

 

[razorgecko1982]

Getting defensive will get you no where. People are just telling you the truth. Personally I think you should own leopard geckos for a few years before you breed. I have kept leos as pets for 3 years and I still am learning everyday and wouldn't even attempt to breed because there is so much I do not know.

I understand that. But people seem to want to still make an example of me. I am seriously wondering if any one has heard the old saying "beating a dead horse" ? I already said I need "more time" to research and learn the material necessary for breeding. I even said I need to invest in a reliable book because the internet is not always accurate. Not to mention even if I had a male and female, all 3 geckos mentioned are still not mature enough to think about breeding. I am rather beginning to regret bring up the subject in the first place.

 

[Ozy]

Look, it is not cool to breed leopard geckos when you don't know what their parents were and their EXACT genetics.. There are already WAY too many unknowns in the pet stores. Buying books and researching isn't going to change that fact. And don't be getting all up on Maggot. You HAVE told people several times that Calcium Sand is safe. I told you MYSELF.. TWICE to stop telling people that. Why can't you just take simple advice? It is irresponsible to breed geckos when you don't know their exact genetics. Do we have to hit you in the head with it or what? Personally I have a GORGEOUS Banana Blizzard girl that I got at P*tco. Will I breed her just because she is gorgeous? NO! Most of the geckos that the big breeders sell to chain pet stores are neonates and are considered pet quality. If they were of breeding quality the breeder would have kept them, or sold them themselves. I think it's fine to do research, because then you will better know how to care for your leopard gecko. But all the research and time in the world is not going to change the fact that you are irresponsibly breeding geckos with unknown genetics. What if one of them carries a genetic disorder and the babies are born with it? You wouldn't know it, because you don't know where that gecko came from. Then the babies would suffer. I'm not saying that FOR SURE will happen, but it's just one possible scenario in a sea of things that could go wrong... And for real, if you took all of those classes and such, then why can't you spell definition, and why can't you use proper grammar? I'm not trying to be mean, but you are trying to act smart, and I don't like it when people do that.

 

[razorgecko1982]

I am simply weighing my options, and what possible outcomes could happen from not only owning leopard geckos, but also if I were to decide to breed, what quality of geckos I would need and the cost involved for such a project. I came to this site to make friends, and have deeper resources then if I had ventured out on my own. Think of all the variables if I would have done that. I need help, so either help me or leave me alone.

 

[GeckoCrossing]

If you're going to get a book, get Ron Tremper's new book. But honestly, you don't need a book. This forum has a lot of successful breeders with all the information you could possibly need, and more. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions you don't get answered. I'll be happy to help.

 

[SC Geckos]

I am simply weighing my options, and what possible outcomes could happen from not only owning leopard geckos, but also if I were to decide to breed, what quality of geckos I would need and the cost involved for such a project. I came to this site to make friends, and have deeper resources then if I had ventured out on my own. Think of all the variables if I would have done that. I need help, so either help me or leave me alone.

Its good that you are looking for information on this forum. Most everyone wants to help you just some do it different than others. lol! My self included. I try not to bash anyone that is looking for help. So hopefully I didn't come off that way.
If you would like to try your hand at breeding I would suggest filling your head with as much quality information as you can along with quite a bit of hands on experience caring for the animals first. Invest in "breeder quality" animals with known genetics. They don't have to be super high end morphs but IMO they should not be purchased from a pet store. Check out this website which has some great articles for all levels of keepers and breeders Gecko Blog: Breeder interviews, photo contests, gecko care | GeckoTime.com.
Godd Luck

 

[Kristi23]

I want to warn everyone to not be rude in this post (op and others).

To the OP: Please do not breed geckos with unknown genetics. Follow everyone's advice and learn about genetics and purchase high quality animals with known genetics.

 

[Ozy]

I am simply weighing my options, and what possible outcomes could happen from not only owning leopard geckos, but also if I were to decide to breed, what quality of geckos I would need and the cost involved for such a project.

Now see that seems like a much more reasonable approach, if you had said that right off the bat, people probably would have been a little gentler. LOL. I wasn't trying to be rude, I am just passionate about Leopard Geckos and tend to get a little... blunt.. hahaha. If you want to breed, just follow the advice. Do your research, keep leopard geckos for at least a few years (so you know EXACTLY how to care for them) weigh your options, then if you decide to take the plunge buy geckos from a trusted breeder who can tell you exactly who the parents are and their exact genetics. This way you can be sure that none of them have a genetic disorder or some other weird thing hiding out that they could pass on to the babies. This will ensure that you get HEALTHY babies. No one wants to buy a sick gecko and you can't sell a dead one. So, sorry if I seemed mean in my last post. I was trying to help you..

 

[razorgecko1982]

I want to warn everyone to not be rude in this post (op and others).

To the OP: Please do not breed geckos with unknown genetics. Follow everyone's advice and learn about genetics and purchase high quality animals with known genetics.

Thank You Kristi. I am just trying to understand everything.

 

[razorgecko1982]

I was trying to help you..

Thankyou