Genetics Confusion

[PatHigdon]

Oh lord what have I done!! LOL!!!!!

I like the name RAPTOR. Its catchy. Now APTOR I could really careless for.

To even further propel this discussion. Where does the patternless aspect of the APTOR/RAPTOR come in? Is it a seperate gene or does it come from the Murphy Patternless (leucistic)?

 

[TokayKeeper]

Oh lord what have I done!! LOL!!!!!

I like the name RAPTOR. Its catchy. Now APTOR I could really careless for.

To even further propel this discussion. Where does the patternless aspect of the APTOR/RAPTOR come in? Is it a seperate gene or does it come from the Murphy Patternless (leucistic)?

Tremper's patternless is a line-bred trait, unlike the murphy patternless which is a single gene, recessive mutation.

In the case of Tremper's "patternless" it typically only affects body pattern of the gecko, where head and tail pattern can be retained.

 

[acpart]

Another unfortunate term used in leopard gecko morph talk is "patternless". Murphy's patternless geckos are born with a faint beige/yellow blotched pattern that eventually fades so the adults are truly "patternless". The "patternless" we're talking about here, as in "patternless stripe" is the result of a stripe and a reverse stripe that kind of cancel each other out. The best ones have little or no color on their bodies but some do have a few colored blotches. To make things even more complicated, I've found that these so-called "patternless stripes" can get spottier as they mature, but are frequently still called "patternless".

Aliza

 

[Tony C]

Another unfortunate term used in leopard gecko morph talk is "patternless". Murphy's patternless geckos are born with a faint beige/yellow blotched pattern that eventually fades so the adults are truly "patternless". The "patternless" we're talking about here, as in "patternless stripe" is the result of a stripe and a reverse stripe that kind of cancel each other out. The best ones have little or no color on their bodies but some do have a few colored blotches. To make things even more complicated, I've found that these so-called "patternless stripes" can get spottier as they mature, but are frequently still called "patternless".

Aliza

That is why I don't really put much weight on "Patternless Stripe" being a necessary component in a RAPTOR. As far as I'm concerned a Tremper Eclipse is a RAPTOR, the rest is just marketing. For anyone who disagrees, I have an Abyssinian I can sell you... :main_laugh:

 

[PatHigdon]

That is why I don't really put much weight on "Patternless Stripe" being a necessary component in a RAPTOR. As far as I'm concerned a Tremper Eclipse is a RAPTOR, the rest is just marketing. For anyone who disagrees, I have an Abyssinian I can sell you... :main_laugh:

There are alot of Leo morphs that just don't interest me. Like all the snow stuff. They just don't do anything for me.

 

[TokayKeeper]

There are alot of Leo morphs that just don't interest me. Like all the snow stuff. They just don't do anything for me.

You're not the only one. I personally think it turns the albino genes ugly, particularly the mack super snow in either albino line; they all look the same - dark tan and white-gray.

 

[acpart]

I'm looking forward to see what my mack trempers end up looking like. I've had snow/tang crosses that were ugly gray yellow and then when I switched males, I got a bunch with nice lemon yellow coloring, so to some extent I think it depends on the genetics of the snow gecko.

Aliza

 

[Tico]

As a new Gecko owner i was reading all the post and can i say ( holding Head ) Umm WHAT !

 

[PatHigdon]

As a new Gecko owner i was reading all the post and can i say ( holding Head ) Umm WHAT !

LOL!!! Umm WHAT!! On which part?

 

[Wowoklol]

As a new Gecko owner i was reading all the post and can i say ( holding Head ) Umm WHAT !

http://www.vmsherp.com/LCGenetics101.htm

Very nice intro to mandelian genetics. Can get advanced real quick

Or you could just do like me and get a girlfriend already into genetics(corn snakes) haha

 

[TokayKeeper]

Or you could just do like me and get a girlfriend already into genetics(corn snakes) haha

Did that, that was a little over 4 years ago and oddly wound up being the primary subject on our first date. She's a microbiologist, but I tell her she's not a real biologist, like I, because she doesn't know some of the standard general bio stuff outside of her micro degree.