Help for petco!

[PhoenixCoconut]

Hi, can anyone help me make an article fro petco? I always get so mad when I go in and tell them about sand and they say its good its all calcium not sand blah blah blah! Please help! Post something you would want in there!

Thanks,
Nicole

 

[GonzGeckos]

The petcos around me use repti carpets

 

[GeckoCrossing]

They don't listen. Trust me. I used to work for Petsmart and was actually their 'reptile expert'... nothing but a title. I couldn't make any enclosure changes or anything. I tried making submissions on the different reptiles care to corporate but they don't listen. They go with whatever makes them the most money.

 

[PhoenixCoconut]

Ya thats sad! Im glad your petcos actually use safeness! lol

 

[Knytemare]

i pefer petsmart over petco. I just went to petco yesterday and their ball pythons were like all going through bad sheds and all, idk but its funny they had a tokay gecko lol. I recently got a leo from a petsmart by me which turns out its a hypo tangerine woot for $20, but it looks healthy and the guy said it just came in, but it had a nice tail for its size, and was active and alert and all, but i think the petsmart least for me around here takes better care of their animals, unlike petco where i told a cashier they had a dead Ballpython in their tank and they're like "oh.. ill get that" -_-

 

[garner63080]

I purchased a gecko at Petsmart and propyly took it back. I haven't been in one that the geckos didn't look sickly. I have 2 from PetSmart and they are both healthy happy lizards.

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[FBody355]

I feel as if Petsmart is more "in tune" with their reptiles instead of Petco. Petco always seems to have around 6+ geckos in 1 tank at a time opposed to Petsmart which I never see more then 2 in a tank at all times.

 

[PhoenixCoconut]

Yes, I agree w/ all of you petco does not have very good care and I really wish they would change! Petsmart had pretty good care!

 

[JeepFreak81]

Funny thing is the closest petco to me actually seems as good or better than the closest petsmart.

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[ceduke]

Hahaha, I bought a Petsmart gecko this evening and the *brilliant* employee threatened to refuse to sell me the gecko if I didn't buy a UV light. Of course, the Petco down the street has mites ALL OVER its reptiles. I can't even go in there. >.<

 

[garner63080]

Well i went to petsmart and.found a Mack Snow and a Tangerine Carrot Tail. The lady there said they get a LOT of Morphs. Not only that they always are healthy. They have a good supplyer (or a really dumb one selling morphs for so damn cheap)

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[katie_]

Every PetSmart/Co has a different supplier. Some are better than others. It depends on what area youre in.
Writing a letter to the store wont help. Write to the head office.

 

[PhoenixCoconut]

Every PetSmart/Co has a different supplier. Some are better than others. It depends on what area youre in.
Writing a letter to the store wont help. Write to the head office.

Ya thats what I was going to do and I don't know what to put on it.:main_huh:

 

[MRP2k12]

Ya thats what I was going to do and I don't know what to put on it.:main_huh:

Start it:

Dear petco,

you suck.




I bought my first leopard gecko from petco and that will be the last time, if they dont want to care for there animals then they wont be getting my money...Im sure everyone on here feels the same i just wish the average person knew what we know, Its better to support the small buisness in the industry then keep feeding the money hungry corporation.

They cant be helped.

 

[M_surinamensis]

Every PetSmart/Co has a different supplier.

No, they don't.

While there are rare exceptions and the corporate buyers for either company (structured slightly differently) can make exceptions, both Petsmart and Petco have established relationships with a few bulk suppliers for their live animals. There are some geographic limitations in place from some of their suppliers, but these are not specific to individual stores; rather they cover large regions such as "The eastern half of the United States" or "Canadian Stores"

Between the two chains, they operate something around 2,500 (give or take 100 in either direction) store locations. Individual suppliers would be an outright impossibility. Stores have some leeway in forming individual orders and get availability lists from the suppliers that the company has associated with their location, but in almost all cases (with rare, buyer approved exceptions) their animals will come from the same handful of distributors or mass breeders. MidAmerica, Animals Etc, CalZoo, C.R.A.P. and Reptile Industries, possibly still getting some things from Fluker though that may have stopped. Toss in the oddball amphibian species that comes in from Segrest Farms and that's about the shape of their supply chain for herps.

Since the first three of those are enormous middlemen that don't breed their own stock, the actual origin of any given animal can be a bit of a mystery. Leos would mostly be from Tremper or the Bells though, I'm fairly confident in guessing that there are established bulk production contracts between those two suppliers and those two retailers.

As to why these morphs show up in those bulk orders... that's a natural result of a dual production model, where the breeders simultaneously work on their own high-end projects while demoting most of the offspring those projects put out to a larger, less tightly regulated mass breeding facility. There are so many heterozygous siblings being taken away from The Next Big Thing Project©®™ and dropped into the population of thousands and thousands of breeders for bulk production that bizarre and unlikely combinations become statistical certainties. Nothing dumb about selling them to chain stores for whatever tiny amount they start at before the retail markup makes them fifteen dollars either; as a successful business model, volume works for the species in question.

At least for those few that were able to provide it early enough and lock in those contracts. Trying to compete with them in that kind of production scheme doesn't work as well for someone starting out. Can't match the volume, have to compete on quality.

Im sure everyone on here feels the same

Not exactly.

 

[garner63080]

Well I have the philosophy that pet.store or breeder purchased as long as they are.happy.and healthy that's all that matters. I think MOST will agree.

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[uhxxLeah]

Dont blame the petco employees. Its actually not their decision to keep them on sand. I am good friends with the employees at our petco. They actually switch all their animals to repticarpet but when the guy from corporate visited the store, they got in trouble and had to change it back.

petsmart: even though corporate doesnt let us do a lot of things, they do let us keep our animals on repticarpet. We have no say in who our supplier is, we switch them a lot though. Some animals come in very healthy and we have no problems but some also come in bad health. We do provide vet care to sick animals and we actually have gone to two different vets to get a second oppinion.

Leah

 

[MRP2k12]

All im saying is why buy from a corporation that all they care about is money, when you can put your money in the hands of a small business that cares for there animals...and dont say because of price there are breeders that sell normals or high yellows for an affordable price there are always exceptions but...

Support the small business!

 

[PhoenixCoconut]

Dont blame the petco employees. Its actually not their decision to keep them on sand. I am good friends with the employees at our petco. They actually switch all their animals to repticarpet but when the guy from corporate visited the store, they got in trouble and had to change it back.

petsmart: even though corporate doesnt let us do a lot of things, they do let us keep our animals on repticarpet. We have no say in who our supplier is, we switch them a lot though. Some animals come in very healthy and we have no problems but some also come in bad health. We do provide vet care to sick animals and we actually have gone to two different vets to get a second oppinion.

Leah

I agree, but............I like the people but they say its all good and they defend it, IDK if they are just saying that, but my first leopard was from there and it had parasites would not eat ect. ect. It has just really scared me oh ya he had impaction also, I was going to use the carpet but the employee insisted, of course my g-pa said nicole listen to the employee they know what they are talking about....but in the corner of my mind I knew they did not....but I bought it(Stupid stupid me!!) and ya thats my story!

 

[katie_]

No, they don't.

While there are rare exceptions and the corporate buyers for either company (structured slightly differently) can make exceptions, both Petsmart and Petco have established relationships with a few bulk suppliers for their live animals. There are some geographic limitations in place from some of their suppliers, but these are not specific to individual stores; rather they cover large regions such as "The eastern half of the United States" or "Canadian Stores"

Between the two chains, they operate something around 2,500 (give or take 100 in either direction) store locations. Individual suppliers would be an outright impossibility. Stores have some leeway in forming individual orders and get availability lists from the suppliers that the company has associated with their location, but in almost all cases (with rare, buyer approved exceptions) their animals will come from the same handful of distributors or mass breeders. MidAmerica, Animals Etc, CalZoo, C.R.A.P. and Reptile Industries, possibly still getting some things from Fluker though that may have stopped. Toss in the oddball amphibian species that comes in from Segrest Farms and that's about the shape of their supply chain for herps.

Since the first three of those are enormous middlemen that don't breed their own stock, the actual origin of any given animal can be a bit of a mystery. Leos would mostly be from Tremper or the Bells though, I'm fairly confident in guessing that there are established bulk production contracts between those two suppliers and those two retailers.

As to why these morphs show up in those bulk orders... that's a natural result of a dual production model, where the breeders simultaneously work on their own high-end projects while demoting most of the offspring those projects put out to a larger, less tightly regulated mass breeding facility. There are so many heterozygous siblings being taken away from The Next Big Thing Project©®™ and dropped into the population of thousands and thousands of breeders for bulk production that bizarre and unlikely combinations become statistical certainties. Nothing dumb about selling them to chain stores for whatever tiny amount they start at before the retail markup makes them fifteen dollars either; as a successful business model, volume works for the species in question.

At least for those few that were able to provide it early enough and lock in those contracts. Trying to compete with them in that kind of production scheme doesn't work as well for someone starting out. Can't match the volume, have to compete on quality.



Not exactly.

I worked for PetSmart for 3 years and ordered my reptiles from a specific supplier that only supplies reptiles to PetSmarts in Ontario.
I know how their system works.
Each STORE may not have their OWN supplier, but PetSmarts in different areas have different suppliers, than say - PetSmart in a different province.