help with identifying

[strigoii]

Please help to identify this morphs.
I think first is Normal Lavender and the others hard to say...
Second is high yellow? Sorry for bad quality of pictures
http://geocities.com/costya182/26012007399.jpg

http://geocities.com/costya182/26012007415.jpg

http://geocities.com/costya182/26012007401.jpg

 

[robin]

still no photos :O

 

[strigoii]

temporaly problem

 

[BalloonzForU]

I can't see them either.

I'm going to delete the duplicate thread about this. Post the images in this thread once they are so we don't have another duplicate thread.

 

[Jeanne]

The first and the third one looks like normals, the second one looks like a High Yellow.

What is that substrate you have them on?

 

[strigoii]

so the first and the third one are normals? i was not sure about the third one - it's a male and he's 4 month already (it's my first baby)) and I don't know the genes of parents actually. father is het blizzard for sure (he is normal looking) and mother is blizzard.

 

[strigoii]

What is that substrate you have them on?

I keep them on calcium sand (black&white) from exo terra. and on shallow pebbles. and on paper

 

[cjreptiles]

father is het blizzard for sure (he is normal looking) and mother is blizzard.

In that case, he is definitely het. for blizzard himself.

 

[Jeanne]

I keep them on calcium sand (black&white) from exo terra. and on shallow pebbles. and on paper

You may want to consider taking them off the sand and the pebbles. They can ingest the loose substrate and become impacted and possibly die from it. Paper towels, tiles, or newspaper ar the best substartes to use.

 

[strigoii]

You may want to consider taking them off the sand and the pebbles. They can ingest the loose substrate and become impacted and possibly die from it. Paper towels, tiles, or newspaper ar the best substartes to use.

thanx for advise, but I know that. I'm a herp-vet. I keep leos about 8 years already it's just I breed them only second year

 

[MichaelJ]

The first and third are normals from what I can tell. They may have been incubated at lower temps to make them darker. But that could be the pics. The second definitely carries some blizzard traits but it's hard to tell from the pics.

I would also get them off of that substrate with quickness. Paper towels, newspaper, or the more aesthetic carpet.

 

[strigoii]

the same animal (as on second picture), but younger

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

thanx for advise, but I know that. I'm a herp-vet. I keep leos about 8 years already it's just I breed them only second year.

If you are a herp vet, then you know that calcium sand is not a good choice for leopard gecko substrate. Right? Since the gecko's GI system in very short, the calcium sand does not always dissolve completely and becomes sticky and clumps together in the bowel which leads to impaction.

Also, (of course you know this already), calcium carbonate is the same ingredient in Rolaids or Tums. Having high amounts of of this in their GI system will actually cut down on the gastric acids necessary for the proper digestion of food... further contributing to gut impaction.

But of course, you know this already...

 

[BalloonzForU]

MWOGL :main_yes:

 

[strigoii]

I'm a young herp vet) and I am in Ukraine, I've learned things by my own (books, internet and my own expirience), so I may be not good enought in some questions..
I know all that you wrote (thanx for your attention anyway). I feed my leos with a help of pincers, or from a dish, so they don't actualy eat sand. also I give them enought calcium. and even if there is "a situation" with a cricket? or some worm, when sand goes to their moth - they (leos) spit it out.
and I don't keep all of my geckos on sand.

 

[BalloonzForU]

I'm a young herp vet) and I am in Ukraine, I've learned things by my own (books, internet and my own expirience), so I may be not good enought in some questions..
I know all that you wrote (thanx for your attention anyway). I feed my leos with a help of pincers, or from a dish, so they don't actualy eat sand. also I give them enought calcium. and even if there is "a situation" with a cricket? or some worm, when sand goes to their moth - they (leos) spit it out.
and I don't keep all of my geckos on sand.

Wait, you're a self taught herp vet, or an actual DVM?

Since leos lick just about everything they come in contact, including sand they are going to ingest the calci sand. Also since they will seek out calcium they will eat the CALCI sand, not knowing any better. As keepers we all should stay away from Calci Sand, use of play sand is ok with adults, but is still a risk.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

I've learned things by my own (books, internet and my own expirience), so I may be not good enought in some questions..

I suspected you were not a Degreed Herp Vet.

and even if there is "a situation" with a cricket? or some worm, when sand goes to their moth - they (leos) spit it out.

I have never seen a leo spit anything out, and as Felicia said, they lick everything!

 

[Kotsay1414]

If you are a herp vet, then you know that calcium sand is not a good choice for leopard gecko substrate. Right? Since the gecko's GI system in very short, the calcium sand does not always dissolve completely and becomes sticky and clumps together in the bowel which leads to impaction.

Also, (of course you know this already), calcium carbonate is the same ingredient in Rolaids or Tums. Having high amounts of of this in their GI system will actually cut down on the gastric acids necessary for the proper digestion of food... further contributing to gut impaction.

But of course, you know this already...

:main_yes:

 

[strigoii]

Wait, you're a self taught herp vet, or an actual DVM?

I'm a DVM since last year. As for herps - nobody in our country teaches that, so I had to do it myself, I'm a self-made herp-vet

I agree, that sand is a bad choise. But, for my luck (and the luck of my geckos) they live on sand for years and we have no problems with it at all. calcium is in dish, so leos can find it without a problem anytime and they don't have to actually eat sand.

 

[BalloonzForU]

I'm a DVM since last year. As for herps - nobody in our country teaches that, so I had to do it myself, I'm a self-made herp-vet

I agree, that sand is a bad choise. But, for my luck (and the luck of my geckos) they live on sand for years and we have no problems with it at all. calcium is in dish, so leos can find it without a problem anytime and they don't have to actually eat sand.

Awesome youre a DVM, but not a herp vet by any means, but have some self taught knowledge.

As for what I've highlighted in red.... No they don't HAVE to eat the sand, but do you think they know the difference? Calcium is Calcium to them, and they DONNOT know the difference between Calci Sand and Calcium in a dish, and will eat whatever they find as a sorce of calcium.