How about these guys??

[dragonflyreptiles]

OK, the floor temp is now OK at 90, 92 is better.

What did you do about the overhead light? that could be causing problems as I mentioned, they do not need above heat, only belly heat.

And again and I think it has been supported as long as he is big enough to eat a pink and I can't tell from the photo if he is, it is fine to give him one. Not one a day, I never said that. But pinks are a good source of nutrition and natural part of their diet in the wild.

I really wish that some of the members here would buy a current book or 2 or read a few current care sheets that are written by long term keepers before giving out false information.

It realyl makes it hard for someone asking for information to know what it right to do when they are getting correct and incorrect information!

 

[dragonflyreptiles]

One thing you may need to remember is that waxies are all fat and have no real nutritional value and as I said before if a leo is fed waxies for a long period of time is makes it hard to get them back on a good varied diet.

You said you were providing in post #13, waxies and (giant meal worms,large crickets,pheniox worms,small pinkies). That would be OK as long as the waxies are few and far between.

Again..... (they eat at night when you may not see them eat or be up to hand feed) SO Put a dish of mealies in the tank, or small to medium to supers with ample vits and cali and keep it full, then give crix a couple of times a week but make sure he eats them and if not take them out. YOU CAN give him a pink from time time as well.

 

[GRHerptry]

Today I picked up some mealworms (small's)... he had one in calcium.. and has free range to a bowl of calcium and mealies! He seems to be sleeping alot all of the sudden.. any thought as to why he is sleeping so much latley??

Any input welcome!

~Thanks~

 

[Leopardbreeder]

I feed the occasional pinkie.

 

[dragonflyreptiles]

they are nocturnal so they do sleep most of the day and are up at night. YOu will see him out more between dusk til dawn than any other time of day.

they will also sleep more if there temps are too low, try to get the floor temp up to 92 or 93. they will also stay in their hides more at night of there are a lot of bright lights on so keep the room dark at night.

you can keep the lights on in the room from say 6 or 7 am to 6 to 8pm then let him have a darker room. just ry to mimic to day night cycle that is outside, you will have a longer day cycle in the summer than the winter. they also sleep more in the winter as well.

he may also get confused if the lights are off all day and only on a few hours at a time when you are in your room (if that is where he is) they need a steady say night cycle.

 

[GRHerptry]

Ok.. do you think he would mind a red light 24/7? And his UTH?

 

[paulnj]

I am a leopard gecko.... up all night, sleep late

 

[dragonflyreptiles]

Im a leo too lol

a red light is fine all the time if it is very low watt, I always used a 15 watt party bulb (I prefer blue but blue or red is fine)

You just do not want to have any added heat from your bulb, they need belly heat and come out at night to avoid the above ground heat.

They even make the compact fluorescent bulbs that are 13 watt and produce little to no heat at all and they now come in red and blue.

 

[GRHerptry]

Awesome, I will pick one or two of them up! Because his tank is dark now, and I really love to watch in walk around and stuff..

I've been told I'm nocturnal as well, sleep till late in the day, and up all night haha.. Nice others share my sleeping pattern! haha

 

[Rejoice in the Lord]

My house is a bit cool (heaters are barely keeping it up to 68) so this winter, I have added a red bulb as an extra heat source to warm up my tank air temps just a bit. Still, my air temps are barely reaching 78.

All that to note that there is a time and place for using bulbs to heat the air

 

[dragonflyreptiles]

air temps do not mattetr its the ground them of the belly heat, I get ground temps of 93-93 while the cool side in the the low 70's

That is why you need Under tank heat, not above or from your average room temps.

LEOS NEED BELLY HEAT

The average room temp should he you coold side in th 70'

 

[dragonflyreptiles]

air temps have little to do with leos, they need belly heat and their beely tesmpa re waht is importatn

1. from an UNDER not ABOVE heating element. 1/3 - 1/2 of you tank depending on size, I just stick iwth 1/2 belly heat (under tank heat that is set up UNDER tha tank not above)

2. blue or red very low watt compact fluorescent bulb is fine for vewing, the red tends to hurt my eyes so I prefer blue.

GRH -- ALo since you are a partial day sleeper like many of us you would not want to place the tank near a window but if you can get a lamp with a low watt blub *regular candlelight for cheap*) that could be set on a timer for them to cut on at 6am and shut off at 6-8pm that way they will get a better day night cycle.

even though they are noctutnal, they can't just be left in the dark all of the time of for 20 hours a day. they need a day time just like we do just no to the same extent, but they do need to see a day coming on and the end of the day going, so they can settle into a nice new home with all of the natual things they would notmally have.

cause if you sleep all day like I di, its pretty dark lol

 

[GRHerptry]

lol, I dont sleep all day, I go to bed at 2 or 3 AM and wake up around 10 or 11. Now I suppose I can get a timer for their tanks, now what are you say daytime wise? You mean just room liten up by the window light? Or an overhead light very dim, but just to let them know its day time?

 

[paulnj]

window light will due in most cases to set a photo period.

 

[GRHerptry]

Also. Can leopard geckos have Dyne?

 

[paulnj]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyne

 

[GRHerptry]

AKA Nutracal?

 

[paulnj]

ahhhh, Never heard of that myself.

Try asking that in the supplimentation forum.

 

[yellermelon]

I was like huh, you wanna give your geckos micro newtons? I was confused lol./

 

[GRHerptry]

ahaha! No, um its like nutracal/ben bac??