how many geckos per floor space?

[Russellm0704]

1 gecko per 20 gallon. Forget about the old 10 gallon rule if you want a healthy gecko.

absolutely incorrect.

 

[Lindz0518]

Wow it seems every thread I read on here, there are people making rude comments. If someone thinks/does differently than you it doesn't always make them wrong, it means it's their opinion. That's what a forum should be... people helping other people with problems and discussing different topics, not just telling people they are wrong. It makes me sad

 

[Laporte]

Thanks Katie, go Canada go,

anyways I've had these two babies in the same 20 gallon tank for less then a week now and they seemed fine together until feeding time then the biting and trampling starts, its also the first time I ever had more then one gecko and now I can see what your saying about seperate tanks for all of them seems to be working out much better except for all the power bars I've got jammed in my cupboard haha thanks for everyone else's opinions and views.

Tyler

And to answer the OP's question, I would house all geckos by themself.
They can fight, dominate, and make each other sick. It doesnt matter if its a 20 or a 30, they can still fight.

My opinion, don't cheap out and fill one tank. Buy several.

 

[Russellm0704]

Wow it seems every thread I read on here, there are people making rude comments. If someone thinks/does differently than you it doesn't always make them wrong, it means it's their opinion. That's what a forum should be... people helping other people with problems and discussing different topics, not just telling people they are wrong. It makes me sad

when someone gives incorrect information then yes, everyone will jump on them. It is absurd to say a leo will be unhealthy because it is in a 10 gallon. Sometimes it is more about getting the correct info out there and less about people's feelings..

 

[SC Geckos]

when someone gives incorrect information then yes, everyone will jump on them. It is absurd to say a leo will be unhealthy because it is in a 10 gallon. Sometimes it is more about getting the correct info out there and less about people's feelings..

+1
Well said.

 

[Cesar_Da_KIng]

"Took the words right outa my mouth pj"

 

[Lindz0518]

There is a way to disagree and inform someone who is misinformed while still being civil. I have kept leos in both 10 and 20 gallon tanks with no problems. I joined this site so that I could learn even more but it seems to be more arguments about personal preferences than information and discussion.

 

[Embrace Calamity]

Wow it seems every thread I read on here, there are people making rude comments. If someone thinks/does differently than you it doesn't always make them wrong, it means it's their opinion. That's what a forum should be... people helping other people with problems and discussing different topics, not just telling people they are wrong. It makes me sad

Dude...chill. If you can't handle people disagreeing on a forum, you seriously need to toughen up. It's really not a big deal, and how you can act like it is is just beyond me.

And what spontanious disease will a gecko get from being in a 10 gallon?
Also, how FAR do you a think a gecko would travel in the wild? As long as they have food and water, they would never need to. Except to breed.

I don't think he's saying it'll catch a spontaneous disease. He's saying you can't really provide proper temperature gradients in such a small tank (which I'm inclined to say is generally true). Plus, we really don't know how far they travel in the wild. Some animals travel a lot, and some barely do at all. I'm not inclined to believe they stay within one 20 or so inch square their entire lives.

Though he may not have been talking purely about physical health. Psychological health is a huge factor too in its general wellbeing.

~Maggot

 

[greenzebra]

I was keeping Leopold in a 10 gallon but a friend of mine didn't need his 20 gallon long anymore so I set up Leopold in a 20 gallon long. I probably would have moved her into a 20 gallon long eventually because I like my pets to have lots of room to roam if they choose to.

 

[Embrace Calamity]

I was keeping Leopold in a 10 gallon but a friend of mine didn't need his 20 gallon long anymore so I set up Leopold in a 20 gallon long. I probably would have moved her into a 20 gallon long eventually because I like my pets to have lots of room to roam if they choose to.

Out of curiosity, have you seen any change in behaviour? If it's been long enough, that is. First few days they're still adjusting.

~Maggot

 

[greenzebra]

Out of curiosity, have you seen any change in behaviour? If it's been long enough, that is. First few days they're still adjusting.

~Maggot

I haven't seen any change in her behavior. I was a bit worried about where she'd go potty. Surprisingly, she still uses the same corner that she did in the 10 gallon. It's probably because I kept the setup very similar to the setup in the 10 gallon.

 

[Embrace Calamity]

I haven't seen any change in her behavior. I was a bit worried about where she'd go potty. Surprisingly, she still uses the same corner that she did in the 10 gallon. It's probably because I kept the setup very similar to the setup in the 10 gallon.

My leo did the same thing when I switched from a 10 to a long 20. Though I didn't keep the setup much the same.

~Maggot

 

[Russellm0704]

There is a way to disagree and inform someone who is misinformed while still being civil. I have kept leos in both 10 and 20 gallon tanks with no problems. I joined this site so that I could learn even more but it seems to be more arguments about personal preferences than information and discussion.

If sitting at my computer and correcting someone for throwing out incorrect info is not civil...then I don't know what is. I did not curse, I did not threaten anyone, I did not form a riot or commit any violent acts. I am sorry you feel that the forum is more about personal attacks because it really is not. Luckily, many of the big time breeders are members here. This is why we have such a fine line of correct and incorrect care. I hope you give this forum a second chance and just learn that any attack you find personal is not about you. IT IS ALWAYS ABOUT THE GECKOS!

 

[SORROW89]

when someone gives incorrect information then yes, everyone will jump on them. It is absurd to say a leo will be unhealthy because it is in a 10 gallon. Sometimes it is more about getting the correct info out there and less about people's feelings..

It is not incorrect to suggest a bigger tank so that their gecko can have better temps and space. It also is not hurting the gecko, if anything it's hooking them up. Just because you don't agree with things other people say, it doesn't make it incorrect.

 

[Russellm0704]

It is not incorrect to suggest a bigger tank so that their gecko can have better temps and space. It also is not hurting the gecko, if anything it's hooking them up. Just because you don't agree with things other people say, it doesn't make it incorrect.

I do agree a little with what you just said. I was referring to the comment when you stated that a gecko in a 10 gallon tank will not be as healthy or live as long. That is just incorrect. I do personally agree that the bigger is better. Most breeders house their adults in 15/16 qt tubs. I house mine individually in 28 qt tubs. But a single gecko in a 10 gallon will be just as healthy as a single gecko in a 20. I have on many cases seen geckos not thrive as well in bigger enclosures. It makes it harder to find food and geckos really just do not appreciate that much space.

 

[Russellm0704]

1 gecko per 20 gallon. Forget about the old 10 gallon rule if you want a healthy gecko.

That's because your geckos are still young. Let's see how they hold up 10 years from now. If 10 gallons is all you want to give your pets, that's you choice. You can't get a good gradient in a 10 gallon. I don't have time to argue back and forward. You are not an expert and have no right to tell someone they sound dumb. Time will tell who is right or wrong.

Who says a 10 gallon doesn't give a good gradient? When I used 10 gallons I used an UTH hooked up to a thermostat. Warm side read 92 and cool said read 75. Seems like a great gradient to me

 

[Russellm0704]

3.5 Is still young. No matter what you do to a 10 gallon, it won't fix the temp issue. A heat may alone is not enough heat in the winter or a room under 75f.

A heat mat alone is certainly enough heat in the winter. If you have your mat hooked up to a thermostat your warm side will still read the same. Your cool side may read a degree or 2 lower which is natural and perfectly normal.

 

[Embrace Calamity]

If sitting at my computer and correcting someone for throwing out incorrect info is not civil...then I don't know what is. I did not curse, I did not threaten anyone, I did not form a riot or commit any violent acts. I am sorry you feel that the forum is more about personal attacks because it really is not. Luckily, many of the big time breeders are members here. This is why we have such a fine line of correct and incorrect care. I hope you give this forum a second chance and just learn that any attack you find personal is not about you. IT IS ALWAYS ABOUT THE GECKOS!

Don't lie. We could all see how rude and nasty you were.

I do agree a little with what you just said. I was referring to the comment when you stated that a gecko in a 10 gallon tank will not be as healthy or live as long. That is just incorrect. I do personally agree that the bigger is better. Most breeders house their adults in 15/16 qt tubs. I house mine individually in 28 qt tubs. But a single gecko in a 10 gallon will be just as healthy as a single gecko in a 20. I have on many cases seen geckos not thrive as well in bigger enclosures. It makes it harder to find food and geckos really just do not appreciate that much space.

Regardless of the 10-20 gallon debate, you can't really judge what is best based on what breeders do. Not insulting anyone in particular or anything, but breeders aren't necessarily (but aren't necessarily not, before anyone gets offended) the most concerned with the wellbeing of the geckos. Applies to every animal. Case and point: Puppy mills.

~Maggot

 

[Cesar_Da_KIng]

Don't lie. We could all see how rude and nasty you were. Regardless of the 10-20 gallon debate, you can't really judge what is best based on what breeders do. Not insulting anyone in particular or anything, but breeders aren't necessarily (but aren't necessarily not, before anyone gets offended) the most concerned with the wellbeing of the geckos. Applies to every animal. Case and point: Puppy mills.

~Maggot

True but those are not what most breeders that CARE about and love their leos do. Your talking about wannabees that only breed leos to make a quick buck and really dont care if they put a bad rep on breeders that do it cause we just enjoy the animals and want more of them or like the scientific aspects of it.

 

[katie_]

I have a gecko who acts more secure in his smaller tank than he did in his 20. Hard to know for sure because I cannot ask him, but he no longer poops where he sleeps. My temperature gradients are perfect.