How to make a DB

jaredm3624

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Would I need a BB het for RAPTOR and a RAPTOR het BB? Or could I get some through TBB and a RAPTOR? Just wondering.
 
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if you bred tbb to a raptor you would get tremper albino's double het for db then breed those offspring together and eventually you will get db's
 

jaredm3624

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what about a BB het eclipse x RAPTOR would that be pretty much the same thing except a chance of getting RAPTORS?
 

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youd still have to breed the babies together you have to have het Raptor Het bb to get db and a blazzing blizzard eclipse is not het for Raprtor but you could breed the babies back cause they'd both be het for both





jaredm3624 said:
what about a BB het eclipse x RAPTOR would that be pretty much the same thing except a chance of getting RAPTORS?
 

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I'm not sure I'm sure youd get something similar but it would not be a diablo blanco, It would be a diference in a blizzard and a bb, they would probably be yellowish and not white like a true db. But I could be wrong on this I don't do anything with blizzards only bb.






jandsfannon said:
What if you were to breed a raptor to a blizzard and then bred the babies back?
 

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Raptor X blizzard gives you normals het for DB(eclipse, tremper and blizzard are the genes needed). From there breeding them back would give you very slim odds at a true DB.

Being as alot of people are working on them, why not a raptor het bliz/ BB het eclipse(raptor)/ tremper double het blizzard and eclipse/ blizzard het raptor or any other fairly common biproducts from that project.

You just need to have both parents carry the 3 genes(eclipse, blizzard and tremper) to produce a DB. The more genes the parents express homozygously, the better your odds.

If at all possible, try to have atleast one parent carrying each of the three genes so that biproducts are 100% het, not the 66% hets a het X het makes.
 
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jaredm3624

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So would the BB het for eclipse x RAPTOR be worth it? How much of a perectage could I count on being DB with the offspring of that pairing?
 
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jaredm3624 said:
So would the BB het for eclipse x RAPTOR be worth it? How much of a perectage could I count on being DB with the offspring of that pairing?

You would not get DB's from that pairing. The Raptor would need to het Blizzard or pos. het.

Paul let you know everything that would work for the project to get DB's. Other than what he listed you need to backbreed.
 

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Paco said:
You would not get DB's from that pairing. The Raptor would need to het Blizzard or pos. het.

Paul let you know everything that would work for the project to get DB's. Other than what he listed you need to backbreed.

I was taking about the back breeding pair. What would the chances be from them?
 
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jaredm3624 said:
I was taking about the back breeding pair. What would the chances be from them?


1 in 16 or about a 6% chance to hacth the Visual you are looking for. From the Doulbe het Breeding.

Ratios go up a bit when you are dealing with the Visuals. The Raptor's that would be produced from the first pairing would be het Blizzard and would give you a higer chance at producing the DB.
 

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if I produce a RAPTOR het blizzard and breed back to the TBB het eclipse, would it give me any better chances?
 

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