I'm getting ready to ban Steve B

[KelliH]

He just won't let shit go, now he is claiming to Jeanne that a male Jungle Het Bell he gave me like 3 years ago was on a breeding loan! He is lying and I was trying to be nice by telling him that I thought either Jeanne or Paul Allen had that male now, then he goes and emails Jeanne saying "Kelli said you may have a gecko I sent her on breeding loan" UTTER BULLSHIT. I've had it and I already wrote him this in my last email to him:

Steve,

We are having this conversation because you told Jeanne that you sent Ray
here on a breeding loan, which is not true. How about you find where that
was stated in any past conversation? You know, you brought all this shit up
last year on GeckoForums in the chat, now you bring it up on the main
boards, you can't let it go. You got your money from the Bell Blazing
project, now please let it go! I am asking you to please not contact me any
more, and please do not post on my website anymore. Thanks,

I am getting ready to block his email address, but should I go ahead and ban him or not? After one of the shittiest weeks I have had in a long time, this is the last thing I need, him starting more bullshit. He just can't let go of his bitterness.

 

[BalloonzForU]

If he's starting this crap here yet again, you can bet he's saying it other places as well.

 

[Jeremy Letkey]

I think that banning him will only send him into an utter tailspin. I would confront him and ask him just what the hell he expects from you.

I am certain that he is jealous of your standing in the herping community. He has issues which he will probably never admit, even to himself and he's engaged to Stina!! He has probably been telling her how cool he was back in the day and she is egging him on to get the recognition that he surely deserves. lol

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

Kelli, he sent me a couple of emails about this, and I told him to keep things you and him, and that I didn't want to be involved in it.

I'm sorry you are having such a fucked up week... I love you!

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

I would confront him and ask him just what the hell he expects from you.

Actually, that's a good idea. The only problem is, that if you do it on the phone there will be no proof of anything you discussed. In cases like this, it might be best to have a paper trail.

 

[KelliH]

Actually, that's a good idea. The only problem is, that if you do it on the phone there will be no proof of anything you discussed. In cases like this, it might be best to have a paper trail.

OK, good idea, I am going to unblock his email address and ask him.

Marcia, what was he emailing you about, what was he saying?

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

Marcia, what was he emailing you about, what was he saying?

Nothing negative... just trying to feel me out, I think. I'll send you the emails.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

Ummm.... I think I deleted them.

 

[BalloonzForU]

I just cleaned house in my buddy list and he and stina can no longer IM, not like they have or I have even answered them in months. He knows better than to talk to me about this kind of topic again.

 

[KelliH]

OK, sent him this

Steve,

Now I have just heard that you are emailing Marcia and getting her involved in all of this! Why are you doing that? I am going to ask you once and for all: What the hell do you want or expect from me? You seem so bitter and angry, what do you expect me to do for you? And why are you involving other people in this situation? My gosh, who knows how many others you are talking crap to, or where else you are repeating this...

Kelli

 

[KelliH]

Here is an old pm I have from him that states that he sent me that male Jungle as a gift!

We both had a lot riding on that project. For you it was time for me it
was emotion. I have no geckos. Everything I sent to Chris is as good as
dead. Mork, the gecko from my logo - Dead. My only attachment to years of my
life spent working with these geckos are the blazing project, which we did
agree to split evenly, and Ray which I gave to you purely as a gesture of
our friendship to help you out with your jungle/stripe bell project. You
have the only remenants of my bloodlines and you of all people know exactly
how much emotion I have invested in that.

I sent him a copy of that pm, he better shut the fuck up about it now.

 

[robin]

"My only attachment to years of my
life spent working with these geckos are the blazing project,"


oh my god my sides are splitting :laugh:

his "years" spent working with geckos lol

 

[KelliH]

It's as if he is blaming me for him not having any of his geckos anymore! He did not want the Bell Blazing project, he told me to sell it! Now he is sentimental about his two female double hets!! He gave me the Jungle Het Bell male as "gesture of friendship" and now 3-4 years later he wants it back! I need some of the drugs he is taking, seriously.

 

[KelliH]

OK, he wrote back and said he expected an apology and that he wants me to get that gecko back for him. I wrote back and said I cannot possibly get the gecko back now but I would be glad to send him the money I got when I sold it ($150 I believe), or I could offer what I originally said I would like to do which is send him some Jungle Bells. Here is the apology-

http://www.geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=13191

He doesn't deserve it or any more money from me or any geckos but I am doing everything I can possibly do to make this stop. I don't want him to have any reason (real or imagined) to communicate with me or about me.

 

[KelliH]

I cannot get the gecko back for you
Steve. I'm sorry but I can't. I think I sold him for $150, I just went back
to look in Quick Books and I can't find an invoice with him on it to either
Jeanne or Paul Allen. In any event, it is not right to ask either of them to
return him. Even though I firmly believe you gave him to me, I am willing to
send you the money I got when I sold him, to try and make up for this grief
you feel I caused you. Or, I can do what we originally talked about, which
is to send you a Jungle Bell group for you to work with. Whatever you want
is fine, but again, I cannot get you that exact animal back at this point.

As far as Paul's group of blazing project animals go, I believe most of them
he sold as normals or will be selling as he is getting rid the project as
well (maybe you should offer to buy some of them from him). He told me the
other day that he might make some new double hets to start over though. I
don't blame him, he's had nothing but problems with the group ie. infertile
eggs, females not laying etc. I'm positive Paul now gets the fact that some
of the animals he got in the original group were related to you, but just in
case I will forward him a copy of this email.

http://www.geckoforums.net/showthread.php?t=13191

Now, let me know if you want the $150 or if you want some geckos and then we
can hopefully be done with this for good.

Sorry, I am sure you guys are getting sick of this but I have to vent somewhere! I love you guys!

 

[Jeremy Letkey]

I think that now, he is just being petty. He does not want an apology. He gave you the gecko, he can not possibly expect you to compensate him for it. I think that there is something else at the heart of the issue but I can not even guess what it may be. I think that he is nuts!!

 

[KelliH]

Steve (the good Steve) says it's practically extortion but whatever, I just want him to leave me the fuck alone.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

You have the email stating he GAVE you the gecko... I don't understand why he feels like you should give it back to him!!?!?!???!!

 

[BalloonzForU]

Kelli this reminds me of my divorce from my first husband for some odd reason. Many years after the fact he apologized to me for being suck a dick and that it was the bitch he was seeing that made him do many of the things he pulled. She egged him on and on and on about everything, so much so that even his lawyer told him he was an ass for the things he was doing. I really think that Stina is pushing Steve as someone already mentioned. He didn't seem like this before when they were just starting to date, now he seems to get worse and worse as he spends more time with her.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

I really think that Stina is pushing Steve...

This wouldn't surprise me in the least! That little bitch just doesn't give up.