Is it mouth rot??

[DierdreDreamwalker626]

We took one of our geckos to the vet the other day b/c she hasn't been eating properly. He gave her a little shot of something to stimulate her appetite and told us that other than that she seemed prefectly healthly. Well a few minutes ago we noticed that there's two little black spots in her mouth towards the ver back on both sides. Could this be mouth rot, and if so how soon should we schedule her appt.? She has a check up in two weeks.

 

[cook75]

Do you mean like small broken blood vessels in the mouth?

 

[cook75]

If so it's a possibilty and try to get a sooner appt. Double check her husbandry as well because something caused it. Poor sanitation, incorrect temperatures, poor nutrition, stress, ect

 

[DierdreDreamwalker626]

We can't tell if it's broken broken blood vessels or not for sure b/c she's not very cooperative, and honestly I can't see good enough to look down in her mouth anyways (lol), but it appears to be very dark, black places on either side of the back of her mouth. Her cage that she's in now is kept clean, as was the one she was in. We clean out all of our cages at least twice a week. We doubled checked out temps and they read right. I'm wondering if it may be stress or something. She used to be in an enclosure with two other geckos, and the other female is known to be a bit of a meanie when she wants to be. She's been in her own enclosure for about a month or so and she seemed to be doing fine when we first put her in there, til about a week or so ago she stopped eating except for every now and again. He gave her something to stimulate appetite and it hasn't seemed to do anything for her. Should i just go ahead and try to make a sooner appt.? What are the things that cause this?

 

[DierdreDreamwalker626]

We have fed her freeze dried crickets recently, which we have never done before in efforts to get her to eat more.

 

[cook75]

We can't tell if it's broken broken blood vessels or not for sure b/c she's not very cooperative, and honestly I can't see good enough to look down in her mouth anyways (lol), but it appears to be very dark, black places on either side of the back of her mouth. Her cage that she's in now is kept clean, as was the one she was in. We clean out all of our cages at least twice a week. We doubled checked out temps and they read right. I'm wondering if it may be stress or something. She used to be in an enclosure with two other geckos, and the other female is known to be a bit of a meanie when she wants to be. She's been in her own enclosure for about a month or so and she seemed to be doing fine when we first put her in there, til about a week or so ago she stopped eating except for every now and again. He gave her something to stimulate appetite and it hasn't seemed to do anything for her. Should i just go ahead and try to make a sooner appt.? What are the things that cause this?

Could be an infection that has just started to show signs. At first you can see salivation and broken blood vessels in the mouth. When it becomes advanced you will notice cheesy material in the mouth. You don't want to wait till then. Take her in sooner just in case. If she has mouth rot she will not eat.

 

[DierdreDreamwalker626]

Okay. Thanks. I'll go ahead and call them back on Monday and let them know. I haven't noticed any heavy salivation yet. ... *hmm* .... i def don't want to wait. Thanks for the help and for answering so quickly!!

 

[cook75]

Okay. Thanks. I'll go ahead and call them back on Monday and let them know. I haven't noticed any heavy salivation yet. ... *hmm* .... i def don't want to wait. Thanks for the help and for answering so quickly!!

welcome, hope she gets better soon

Just make sure the vet exams her mouth well and do the necessary tests like a swab (cytology) and don't give her uneccesary meds.

 

[DierdreDreamwalker626]

welcome, hope she gets better soon

Just make sure the vet exams her mouth well and do the necessary tests like a swab (cytology) and don't give her uneccesary meds.

I will def make sure. I worry about him being able to check her properly though b/c the other day when we were up there he checked inside her mouth but she was trying to eat her alive and he couldn't get a good look. I want to make sure that he checks my baby thoroughly. (lol)

 

[cook75]

welcome, hope she gets better soon

Just make sure the vet exams her mouth well and do the necessary tests like a swab (cytology) and don't give her uneccesary meds.

HMm, Could he have injured her mouth trying? maybe that could have caused the spots in her mouth.

 

[cook75]

If he used an instrument or something to try and pry her mouth open it could have just caused bruising. On the other hand if he did not and was not able to examine her mouth then he could have missed an infection. I guess you have use your best judgement. She possibly had stopped eating due to stress or the time of the year.

 

[DierdreDreamwalker626]

That's actually quite possible, though my hubby got a closer look and said that they don't look like bruises. I know he kept trying to pry her mouth open with a tongue depressor and could never get it open, so he took her in the back and I have no idea what he used then. :/ I know that I had gotten a peak in her mouth a couple days before and I didn't see anything in there.

 

[cook75]

That's actually quite possible, though my hubby got a closer look and said that they don't look like bruises. I know he kept trying to pry her mouth open with a tongue depressor and could never get it open, so he took her in the back and I have no idea what he used then. :/ I know that I had gotten a peak in her mouth a couple days before and I didn't see anything in there.

So the reason you took her to the vet was because she had a poor appetite? Did that start after the temps started dropping or before. The vet said she looked healthy so I am wondering if there really is a problem. Is this the one you have been problems with in the past? I looked at an old post and I think you said the highest temp was 90. Raise it up to 94. Seems like you have had a few problems with her and maybe it will be a good idea to show us a pic of her setup and give us full details by filling the questionnaire. Sometimes little things that you don't think are important can be causing a problem.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

Mouth rot is a bacterial infection characterized by crust and 'cottage cheesy' substance usually found in the corners of the mouth and around the gums. Only a qualified vet can diagnose it accurately.

 

[M_surinamensis]

Mouth rot is a bacterial infection characterized by crust and 'cottage cheesy' substance usually found in the corners of the mouth and around the gums. Only a qualified vet can diagnose it accurately.

Wait, wait, wait, wait WAIT!

Are you saying it can't be diagnosed by some dude that's never seen the animal, that registered on a message board the day after a multi-logon troll that liked to participate in medical threads by pulling nonsensical answers out of its ass was banned, based on the subjective description of symptoms passed along by another person who's also not a vet?

Well I for one am shocked. Simply shocked.

 

[cook75]

Wait, wait, wait, wait WAIT!

Are you saying it can't be diagnosed by some dude that's never seen the animal, that registered on a message board the day after a multi-logon troll that liked to participate in medical threads by pulling nonsensical answers out of its ass was banned, based on the subjective description of symptoms passed along by another person who's also not a vet?

Well I for one am shocked. Simply shocked.

I am not a troll or a guy. I give my opinion based on my experience just like others do on this forum. I am not pulling medical terms out of a hat. This gecko was seen by a vet and the first thing I wrote was to get it back to the vet sooner than the next appt. was scheduled for. The op has posted a few other post and one thing vets rarely go over is proper husbandry. The vet will treat her, but if her husbandry is lacking chances are more problems will arise.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

Well I for one am shocked. Simply shocked.

Good observation, Seamus. *wink

 

[JordanAng420]

A good vet will absolutely go over husbandry, as should the nurse...because a good vet knows that 90% of the time, the problem is caused by something relating to the husbandry. Just wanted to throw that out there.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

I am not a troll or a guy. I give my opinion based on my experience just like others do on this forum. I am not pulling medical terms out of a hat. This gecko was seen by a vet and the first thing I wrote was to get it back to the vet sooner than the next appt. was scheduled for. The op has posted a few other post and one thing vets rarely go over is proper husbandry. The vet will treat her, but if her husbandry is lacking chances are more problems will arise.

We all know who you are! LOL!!!

 

[DierdreDreamwalker626]

Oh wow. I think I stepped in the middle of a cat fight or something. Dang. (lol)

Okay. Here goes:

Yes. We took her to the vet because of poor appetite. She hasn't been a very good eater since we got her actually, but about a week or so ago she stopped eating almost completely. She was still drinking and everything normally, but we could barely get her to eat anything, so I made her an appt. We went over husbandry at the appt. and he wrote down everything and put it all in her chart. He just told us that he wasn't sure why she wasn't eating b/c she seemed to be completely healthy other than the fact she wasn't eating, so he was just assuming it was due to stress of some sort and recomended that we keep her in her own enclosure. The change in her eating was after the temp drop, but the temp dropped here like over a month ago, and they are in their own room where we keep the room at a stabe temp. We're about to go out there in a little while to feed everybody, so I'll take a pic of her cage, and you guys can tell me what you think. And for the attitude: I never asked for a diagnosis. I asked for opinions, since we could not readily access our vet at the given point in time. I didn't know what it was or if there was anything that I needed to be doing for w/e it was in the meantime until I could get an appointment. Cook75 did just that. At no point during the conversation did anyone claim to know what anything was, nor did anyone claim to be a vet. It was advice given based on experience and OPINIONS, nothing more. As you could tell by the fact that I was recomended to go back to an actual vet for a formal diagnosis (of w/e it may be), and the fact that I said I was going to as soon as they were open again. And by the way, that advice was extremely appreciated. Never once did anyone claim that they were able to know for sure what was going on, only that it may be that, and that it def. needed to be checked asap. So the attitude is not justified or appreciated. If you're going to be rude then please just don't say anything at all, as I would hope that people have better things to do than smart off to random people throuought the day.

On a second note, where can I find the questionaire on here? (lol) I'm going to take pictures of her and her cage and post them on here in a little while with it.