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randy p

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New Blood” Albino – or perhaps more aptly named “lemon/lavender” albino, it was discovered that the albino gene actually resides in two separate alleles of the chromosomes. Two variants of albinos (unknowingly) were bred together to improve the pattern on original Tremper/Rainwater albino stock only to find that the babies all came out as regulars that were heterozygous for albino. These babies were raised and rebred to the parents to produce stunning yellow and pink babies with bright pink to ruby red eyes! These geckos are my own secret recipe and hold their stunning colours throughout their life.


I found this add on KIJIJI Thanks Randy
 
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randy p said:
New Blood” Albino – or perhaps more aptly named “lemon/lavender” albino, it was discovered that the albino gene actually resides in two separate alleles of the chromosomes. Two variants of albinos (unknowingly) were bred together to improve the pattern on original Tremper/Rainwater albino stock only to find that the babies all came out as regulars that were heterozygous for albino. These babies were raised and rebred to the parents to produce stunning yellow and pink babies with bright pink to ruby red eyes! These geckos are my own secret recipe and hold their stunning colours throughout their life.


I found this add on KIJIJI Thanks Randy


Please post the link to the site and article. Unless genetic testing was done to prove that a new strain of Albino was produced, I really don't think he can call it a new strain? We shall see what others think. The Offspring from the the Tremper x Rainwater pairs would have been double hets for Tremper and Rainwater. Otherwise if the Strains were compatible there would have been Albino's in the first generation of the Original pairing.
 

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I would also LOVE to see that article. To me it sounds like something else might be in there. But if we now have 4 albinos starins (I doubt it) it would be great.
 
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It seems that there are a few strange ads for Toronto Ont. for Leos
That is the location that I went and looked at from the link that you provided -since that is your location

This is the start of one of the other ads.....

Wild Caught Regular F1’s – Probably the only ones around, these geckos represent what a leopard gecko is supposed to look like (as nature intended). Imported from the deserts of the U.S.S.R. and acclimated in my facility.


USSR???

This is a new one on me..........but them I do not claim to know everything-lol

I did not see the ad that you were referring to but-

I have not read of this new genetic information anywhere
Again-I may have missed it

Anybody else read of this news?

PS-I want to add that I have nothing against Toronto-lol-I have tons of relatives living up there
 

Halley

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I’m pretty sure they are either rainwater, or bell, or double homozygous. He wouldn't be selling them for $60 if he thought they where a new albino.
 
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paulnj said:
average bells.......:main_laugh: :main_rolleyes: :main_laugh:

I agree !

Interesting advertising tho
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I am still wondering about the existence of Leopard Geckos in the deserts of the USSR?
I found this link-it talks about the areas of desert in the USSR

http://www.fao.org/docrep/U5200E/u5200e0a.htm

I have to admit that I am woefully ignorant about their geography and terrain

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paulnj

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Unlees I am missing something, not even the bourdering countries to the "USSR" have leopard geckos from the range maps I have seen.
 
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Paco

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But it still might be legal to get Wild Caught specimens into Russia and from there Legal to Import to Canada. Not all Countries have the same restrictions and importation laws or lack of them. Not that I have any Idea of the Import Laws for other countries, just a guess.
 

randy p

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ther are alot of people trying to pull fast ones this is a good one. If thay do come in its proble from the Checkoslovakia ,we get lots of f 1 fish from thear .
 
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Paco

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Yea with the proper wording it could be very easy to pull the wool over someomes eyes who was not as educated about Leo morphs.
 

randy p

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Original Trempers didn't even look like albinos - as the originals used to "tan" when exposed to bright or UV lighting. When first "stumbled upon", those versions were selling at $10,000 U.S. I got my first Trempers a few years later at $200ea. He has obviously re-vamped his line over the years as well to improve the colour. I took his original line and crossed it with somebody else's line where the albinos had more of a jungle pattern instead of just bands. The offspring all came out as normals or regulars, which meant that I had stumbled on the fact that albinism was present in different alleles of the chromosomes. After a few years of selective breeding with hets and then the homozygous offspring, I developed some pretty stunning albinos that hold their colour, and also have much brighter pink eyes. They have lavender stripes and saddles with a darker purple around the edges and a nice lemon yellow body. I've seen stuff out there that looks close, but this line has a whole different blood.

This is what he said in an email to any one hear of this befor .Randy
 

Crazygecko

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sounds like to me he just bred a tremper to maybe a rainwater. got all normal double het babies then bred the babies together and got albinos. could of been either of the two strains he bred together. all hets for whatever.
Sounds like he did what most breeders try not to do. and that is cross albino strains.
 

Halley

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Yeah, I would say that either they are bells, or a mixture of the two albino strains. It isn't as big of a thing as he wants to make it seem.
 

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They look like bells to me. The project of crossing all three albino strains has been done already when they all appeared. There were projects to see if they could all form a super albino or something. But in the end, unless one was spending much money for genetic testing, you can't tell what strain of albino you have out of the double/triple hets, just by looking at them.
He just doesn't say what the other albino line he used to created double hets which is what he did. They could be any of the strains really, we have no way of telling except to test breed or genetic test.
 

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