Its a Snow after all...

StatikStepz

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All i'm saying is, that i have seen yellow in baby Mack Snows... yes, it can happen. And yes, pure Mack Snow bred to pure Mack Snow makes a "banded" black and white baby. As too how fast the yellow can develop, within this 10 day window that is under debate, i don't know, but i have seen/had babies that by the 8 or 10 gram mark (usually around a month or so), had considerable yellow coming in on them. I mean, thats not really even open to discussion, because this is not something that i think or that i am guessing, i am telling you that i have seen it and experienced it.
 

StatikStepz

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As to what genes this little one inherited, lets just all agree that it should just wait to be bred out to see, and till then, we all patiently wait to the owner of this little guy posts up a new thread either proving or disproving anyone's guess.

Till then, i bid you all farewell, as i have to go get ready for work now. lol
 

nevinm

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fe im in 100%%%% agreence with ya. thats what i have been trying to say but in too many words i guess. lol

chris. im not attacking you so dont think i am. but by all means do you have pictures and records? are you sure those yellow mack snow babies out of the eggs werent actually "mack pastel"? and when you say "pure" mack snow, do you mean super mack snow? what is a pure mack snow?

mack snow X normal = 50/50 mack/normal
mack snow X mack snow = 25/50/25 normal/mack/super mack
mack snow X super mack snow = 50/50 mack/super mack
super mack X super mack = 100 % super mack

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BalloonzForU

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You guys are the experts, so I rest my case. I don't have a picture of him hatching out though. The breeder told me he hatched out all white. I got him (first photo) when he was 10 days old already.

Thank you all for the enlightenment.

Did you EVER see a pic of it when it actually looked like a mack snow? I know a lot of breeders that take many pics to keep records to have as proof for many reason and in this case this is one that needs it IMO.

Again I think most of us that are saying it doesn't look like a Mack Snow feel the same way, that it could be one, but we don't see it in the pics you're showing. If it proves out once bred then that's great news for you, and I hope it does, for you, since that's what you purchased.
 

BalloonzForU

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It's sad that we've actually gotten to this point with the Mack Snows. Too much yellow is showing up in them now days when the morph itself is called a SNOW for a reason. Some people are having a hard time even telling the diffence from a premie and a snow or even a normal from a slightly yellow mack. Photo's of a yellowish mack out of the egg are hard to pick out, but easier to tell in person, because the yellow pops out as a highlighter yellow not a high yellow (if you can understand what I mean by that) and the camera just doesn't seem to catch it.

With this being said, I'm sure there are a few newbs that have thought they produced Mack Snows and have sold them as such. And there have been a lot of scams as well because of the lager number of yellow macks being produce it's not hard to do. Because of this we sometimes look at ways to disprove rather than prove at this age untill the animal can actually prove itself.
 

nevinm

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With this being said, I'm sure there are a few newbs that have thought they produced Mack Snows and have sold them as such. And there have been a lot of scams as well because of the lager number of yellow macks being produce it's not hard to do. Because of this we sometimes look at ways to disprove rather than prove at this age untill the animal can actually prove itself.

and again... i agree 100%. as i said above, IMO i think chris may have hatched out some very nice lightly colored "mack pastels" and thought they were snows. im not saying anything bad about it, just that he was mistaken. it happens to the best of us.... and scams.......... yeah..... nough said...
 

Wandering Paddle

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unless you have some polygenic hyper xanthic going on here that you arent telling us about, then i dont think this is in anyway a snow.

Maybe one day i'll hatch a yellow snow...doubt it...? even my snows that have orange coloration, not yellow, were born black and white.
 

nevinm

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unless you have some polygenic hyper xanthic going on here that you arent telling us about, then i dont think this is in anyway a snow.

Maybe one day i'll hatch a yellow snow...doubt it...? even my snows that have orange coloration, not yellow, were born black and white.


he said that according to the breeder that animal hatched out white and black. so by all means that would make it a snow. and maybe the enigma gene made it yellow a lot faster. its nto the strangest idea i have heard come from the enigma gene. but i think the breeder got something mixed up IMO

This is why I choose to buy from reputable breeders. It may cost a bit more, but there are no guessing games as far as what genetics are at play.

ever the best of us make mistakes lol :main_laugh: :main_laugh: :main_laugh:
 

Wandering Paddle

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he said that according to the breeder that animal hatched out white and black. so by all means that would make it a snow. and maybe the enigma gene made it yellow a lot faster. its nto the strangest idea i have heard come from the enigma gene. but i think the breeder got something mixed up IMO

i was referring to the earlier talk of hatchling snows being yellow. Not necessarily the enigma in question.
 

Gazz

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Last Sept 14 i posted this gecko asking what morph he is... Well I think this answers my question.:)

9-14
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Today
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Base on these pictures deffo the 9-14 picture.This leo is not a Snow enigma.IMO it's a Hypo enigma.IMO the yellow is to strong to early for it to be a snow type.
 
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