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This morning I checked on my gecko and the poo(brown) part of his waste was missing! I only saw the urate. Is there anything that can cause that?
 

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Yeah, guess he only had the urge to "pee". It happens occasionally, absolutely no need to worry, unless you don't see any fecal matter for a while.
 

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This morning I checked on my gecko and the poo(brown) part of his waste was missing! I only saw the urate. Is there anything that can cause that?
It's not exactly "normal" when this occurs. There is always a reason behind it. The most common cause is the temperature on the hot side is too low. This will occur if the temperatures are fluctuating because you are not monitoring them correctly.
 

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This morning I checked on my gecko and the poo(brown) part of his waste was missing! I only saw the urate. Is there anything that can cause that?

No, they do not just let out pee sometimes like humans. A poop was suppose to come but did not for some reason. because the reptiles that are adapted to arid conditions ; their bodies are very efficient in conserving water and just won't waste the pee by itself.

So check your temps or maybe the gecko is too dry or you fed him something too big or something to hard to digest.
 
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Captive reptiles will expel wastes as needed just like any other animal will. Urates can be excreted by themselves from a perfectly healthy animal with proper temps. If anything I wouldn't jump straight to temps but the supplements being used. You should only be concerned if the animal fails to defecate for a prolonged time or if the urate color has changed(at which point you need to seek a Vet).
 

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Captive reptiles will expel wastes as needed just like any other animal will. Urates can be excreted by themselves from a perfectly healthy animal with proper temps. If anything I wouldn't jump straight to temps but the supplements being used. You should only be concerned if the animal fails to defecate for a prolonged time or if the urate color has changed(at which point you need to seek a Vet).

Only if you put a syringe full of liquid in their mouth. i did not say it's a health problem but it's a husbandry problem. everytime someone mentions this problem is always someone who's temps are too cold or the gecko is constipated for some reason. You have alot so I am sure you do not have the time to keep track of there temps all the time and why you have seen this happened. for years I closely monitor temps and this never happened.:)
 

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this happens to me on few occasions, but my temps are fine with white urate since day 1...my leo started getting big and picky about his temps so i decided to just get a basking cave hide to cover the whole uth so he can literally pick and chose where he wants to go.. the hide always has a constant 90-95 though..with some parts going down to 85 if he wants to regulate...and im stumped on constipation because hes been on a staple on silkworms...unless I just answered my own quesiton.
 
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this happens to me on few occasions, but my temps are fine with white urate since day 1...my leo started getting big and picky about his temps so i decided to just get a basking cave hide to cover the whole uth so he can literally pick and chose where he wants to go.. the hide always has a constant 90-95 though..with some parts going down to 85 if he wants to regulate...and im stumped on constipation because hes been on a staple on silkworms...unless I just answered my own quesiton.

how many days he did not poop?
 

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how many days he did not poop?

since day 1 he has been pooping basically every 24 hours, we feed him at night, he poops the next night and thats the cycle. but odd times i see only urate, and on small occasions i noticed him in his corner but not produce anything in the corner over the 3 months ive had him. i noticed it more when i started feeding the silkworms more frequently 1 month in. but i didnt really think anything of it because his bowel movement was perfect since day 1...and looks and acts perfectly healthy from my eyes...bad part on me.
 

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since day 1 he has been pooping basically every 24 hours, we feed him at night, he poops the next night and thats the cycle. but odd times i see only urate, and on small occasions i noticed him in his corner but not produce anything in the corner over the 3 months ive had him. i noticed it more when i started feeding the silkworms more frequently 1 month in. but i didnt really think anything of it because his bowel movement was perfect since day 1...and looks and acts perfectly healthy from my eyes...bad part on me.

yea, I seen this years ago. they start climbing on the glass trying to poop and they can't. it's not always temps, maybe he is a bit dry or you fed him something too big. if you fed him a worm longer than his torso it will just be hard to digest but at least it's a soft worm so it will pass eventually.
 

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ill get smaller worms for sure and make adjustments..sucks got 6 small for my female and bigger ones for him just yesterday lol, anywas thanks:main_thumbsup:
 

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ill get smaller worms for sure and make adjustments..sucks got 6 small for my female and bigger ones for him just yesterday lol, anywas thanks:main_thumbsup:

i forgot to tell u the reason i know, a few years ago I gave a hornworm that was a bit big to one of my leo's and that is what happen, he was trying vey hard to poop but could not. he finally did after like a week.
 

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you know what thats funny that you mentioned that..we have a special here in my petshop buy 12 silk and get 1 free horn worm..we go through 12 silkworms in about 4 days...so every 4 days they both alternate....could be the hornworms
 
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You do not have to syringe feed to over supplement a reptile. Temps are always a factor but if the only condition being presented is the excretion of urates without feces then I don't look at temps as the primary cause. You are far from close about me not knowing temps due to the amount of animals I own. I am a stickler for temps and have probes all over the place and regulate it continuously for all the species we work with. I am not speaking on behalf of pure experience but also the fact that I am in the veterinary field for exotics. The passing of urates is MOST commonly an issue due to supplementation or constipation/impaction. I am not doubting your ability or questioning your experiences...I was just providing the OP with MY suggestion on what I think the problem is. Reptiles are over supplemented and over sanitized all the time.


Only if you put a syringe full of liquid in their mouth. i did not say it's a health problem but it's a husbandry problem. everytime someone mentions this problem is always someone who's temps are too cold or the gecko is constipated for some reason. You have alot so I am sure you do not have the time to keep track of there temps all the time and why you have seen this happened. for years I closely monitor temps and this never happened.:)
 

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You do not have to syringe feed to over supplement a reptile. Temps are always a factor but if the only condition being presented is the excretion of urates without feces then I don't look at temps as the primary cause. You are far from close about me not knowing temps due to the amount of animals I own. I am a stickler for temps and have probes all over the place and regulate it continuously for all the species we work with. I am not speaking on behalf of pure experience but also the fact that I am in the veterinary field for exotics. The passing of urates is MOST commonly an issue due to supplementation or constipation/impaction. I am not doubting your ability or questioning your experiences...I was just providing the OP with MY suggestion on what I think the problem is. Reptiles are over supplemented and over sanitized all the time.

wow, it's so hard to talk thru a computer. people take things the wrong way or maybe I do a terrible job in explaining. yes constipation is what I meant which can be caused by different things. That is why I told him what happened to my leo with the big worm. I know everything you have said, I just look for the simple things that have happened to me. I did not know that oversupplementing caused it too. I wish I can talk thru a microphone instead so that people don't get so upset. How come oversupplementing causes constipation?
 
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I am far from upset. I was just elaborating on the topic and why I think it may be supplementation. I have real life to worry about getting upset over...not forums. Don't fret. Besides I rather enjoy debating things...provides a insight or thought process besides my own and not just a bunch of "yes men" agreeing with everything. Its Halloween...grab a snickers.

Over supplementation wont cause constipation but can be the reason for urates without feces. Urates are a way for the gecko to rid itself from components that would normally be in urine. This allows for animals living in arid environments to retain the maximum water and still excrete wastes. This is why over supplementation can cause urates without feces.
 

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