My dilema...

[Jeremy Letkey]

My dilema, I have a male RAPTOR (Darth)

that I bred to a female Tremper giant albino possible het RAPTOR. (Pickles)

I introduced them on 04-16-07. First eggs were laid on 05-02-07. Incubated for males. First clutch hatches on 06-23-07. The resulting offspring are ID numbers
167

and 168

All is good. In the meantime the next two clutches laid 05-19-07 (inc male) and 06-02-07 (inc female)both go bad and mold over. Next good clutch is laid on 06-14-07 (inc female) the resulting offspring hatched out on 08-24-07. ID numbers
283

And 284

I am perplexed. They should at the very least be Tremper Albinos!
I chalk it up to an error on my part. I must have switched some eggs up?
I have one clutch still incubating, I’ll wait and see what pops out.
Last clutch is laid on 07-05-07 (inc female). First one hatches this morning 09-09-07. It’s ID number is
300

I am even more perplexed!
I have gone back over my records and accounted for every egg and it’s demise and/or hatch.
I guess we’ll see what pops out of the next egg?


Questions are welcome, I’ll answer them to the best of my abilities.

To start with, the female was a first time breeder. Came to me as a young juvie (4-5 months old). She has never had the opportunity to be with a different male in my care.

 

[GECKOFREAK]

Whoa, this makes my head hurt!:main_huh: I'm not sure what happened Jeremy, but those are some great looking babies!

 

[yellermelon]

Kinda the same thing as with those 2 SS rainwataters that guy had. Hmm. I dunno.

 

[PrototypeGeckos]

:dizzy2: Hmm, I don't know, I don't see how it could be anything other than an error, but those are definately from Tremper lines, and you don't do much work with the Trempers do you? I don't know man, thats crazy.

 

[eyelids]

Hmmm... The Reverse Stripe is sweet! LOL! Sorry I had nothing else to input...

 

[dragonflyreptiles]

well I am of no help being the resident genetics idiot but those last 3 are amazing and I peronsally like those better than the RAPTORs lol

 

[dprince]

What do the eyes look like? Could they just be darker colored RAPTORs (darker due to the lower incubation temp?) I have an adult female RAPTOR who is not very bright due to the low incubation temp, and her eyes look a REALLY dark red, almost black. Just a thought.

 

[Jeremy Letkey]

Here is an eye shot of #284. Not a RAPTOR... :main_huh:

 

[Grinning Geckos]

Erm...incubator temps ok? Even the males look dark - for being incubated male anyway. Maybe it's the pictures, but the females don't look black, they look REALLY dark brown. It's hard to say, because those PRS are not normally BLACK as it is. I rememeber a hypo last year that I swore had to be normal...even the eyes looked normal...and it turned out to be albino. That was a Tremper too.

 

[paulnj]

Blame it on the evil tremper Gene Jeremy

 

[bro paul]

I'm with Shanti on this one Jeremy. I think those may be albino "aptors" with that funky dark eye, dark pigment thing going on. If so, those are about the darkest I've seen though. I had the same thing happen with one that I thought was non-albino for about a month...

 

[dprince]

OK, I'm totally perplexed. :main_huh: I can see your dilema........oye.

 

[Jeremy Letkey]

Well
#301

That's it... Trempers are evil!! :main_angry:

They must all be eradicated from my collection!!!:rifle:

 

[bethanboys]

It's all greek to me! It sounds very confusing though!

But beautiful geckos!! I love the new one as well....#301

 

[Double LY]

Well
#301

That's it... Trempers are evil!! :main_angry:

They must all be eradicated from my collection!!!:rifle:

I have the perfect solution - see you Sunday (we'll bring the big car so there will be plenty of room to load these Tremper minion)

 

[dprince]

That's it... Trempers are evil!! :main_angry:

They must all be eradicated from my collection!!!:rifle:

:laugh4:

Unless, perhaps, you may have yourself a new mutation that popped out of your Trempers.............I'm just sayin'....................

Then perhaps the Trempers aren't nearly as evil, eh? Of course, if you still don't want them, tell them California is a really nice place to live...........

 

[paulnj]

Now look what I've done

The "chocolate" APTOR theory makes the best sense to me... why didn't I think of that

 

[Mel&Keith]

I'm voting really dark trempers too. They're gorgeous though, no matter what they are!

 

[atheris978]

I have an idea that might work

Ship number 284 to me and I'll look at it and think about what happened. lol

After contemplating, I'll let you know.

That geckos is SUPER nice !!!!

Wish it had come out of one of my eggs!

 

[Jeremy Letkey]

Update time!!!

#284 as of today.

#284 eyeshot.

Just goes to show... it doesn't matter how long you have been doing something... you can always learn something new.
This case is closed as far as I'm concerned.