Albey
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Hi everybody,
I have to admit that the only thing I know about the Enigma Leopard Geckos is what I have read posted by Kelli. My first introduction to them was over on Fauna when she first posted about them. I really don’t remember too much about them then. I am guessing at one time there were pictures to accompany the posts instead of the red X’s that are there now but since the split those pictures are long gone. LOL What picture I have seen are the ones that are still posted here. They have always been of what looks like an old style High Yellow but with red eyes. I thought they were cool but they didn’t knock my socks off or anything.
This year when I was doing the National Reptile Breeders Expo Paul Allen came by my table. In conversation he asked me if I had seen the Enigmas over at the Mark Bell’s table. I admitted I hadn’t. Later on I went over to Paul’s table to visit with him and once again he asked if I had seen them yet. Since the Bells table was right near him he told me that I should probably make a trip over there to check them out. When I got over there they had about ten of what they were calling the Enigma on display. The looked nothing like the ones that Kelli had posted here on the forum. First of all they didn’t have red eyes, and they were kind of ghost looking if that makes any sense. I had already been away from my table a long time so I decided I would come back later on to ask questions and try to figure out what the deal was with them. Well I didn’t get back until Sunday afternoon and Mark had already left the show to attend his wife Kim’s brothers funeral. No one that was left at the table knew much about them. Since no one could tell me anything about them and the fact that I had just spent my allotted Reptile purchase money on a killer Spider Ball Python I figured I would wait until I got back home and arrange a purchase then.
To make a long story shorter, it is very hard to get in touch with Mark. When I finally got to talk to him he really didn’t want to sell any of them over the phone and didn’t want to talk about them either. He said they would be available at the Chicago show. The problem was I wasn’t doing the Chicago show this year. I was persistent and finally got to talk to Kim. Since we have many mutual friends I was able to convince her to sell me one. I told her I had already seen them and since they were only selling Females I just asked her to pick out a nice healthy one. She told me that to produce the other phase of them I would need a Bell Albino Male. I told her to add one to the price. $1600.00 later, here is my Enigma.
These first three pictures show the body, tail and head but unfortunately don’t really show the ghost like appearance of the head. It has darkness in the shading that doesn’t photograph. It is really something that needs to be seen in person to really appreciate. I know that almost sounds like a cliché these days but with this morph it really is true.
The next picture shows the incredible eye color of this form. What an incredible color it is. I guess the original post over on Fauna had pictures of the eyes but I don’t remember ever seeing them. That would have definitely impressed me. LOL
So now, what is the deal with these guys? I have no idea if there is a super of them, if the Albino is the Super, will they cross into other morphs? Kelli any thing you can add would be much appreciated. LOL If anybody else has any information on them please let’s hear it.
Well thanks in advance and I hope you enjoy the pictures.
I have to admit that the only thing I know about the Enigma Leopard Geckos is what I have read posted by Kelli. My first introduction to them was over on Fauna when she first posted about them. I really don’t remember too much about them then. I am guessing at one time there were pictures to accompany the posts instead of the red X’s that are there now but since the split those pictures are long gone. LOL What picture I have seen are the ones that are still posted here. They have always been of what looks like an old style High Yellow but with red eyes. I thought they were cool but they didn’t knock my socks off or anything.
This year when I was doing the National Reptile Breeders Expo Paul Allen came by my table. In conversation he asked me if I had seen the Enigmas over at the Mark Bell’s table. I admitted I hadn’t. Later on I went over to Paul’s table to visit with him and once again he asked if I had seen them yet. Since the Bells table was right near him he told me that I should probably make a trip over there to check them out. When I got over there they had about ten of what they were calling the Enigma on display. The looked nothing like the ones that Kelli had posted here on the forum. First of all they didn’t have red eyes, and they were kind of ghost looking if that makes any sense. I had already been away from my table a long time so I decided I would come back later on to ask questions and try to figure out what the deal was with them. Well I didn’t get back until Sunday afternoon and Mark had already left the show to attend his wife Kim’s brothers funeral. No one that was left at the table knew much about them. Since no one could tell me anything about them and the fact that I had just spent my allotted Reptile purchase money on a killer Spider Ball Python I figured I would wait until I got back home and arrange a purchase then.
To make a long story shorter, it is very hard to get in touch with Mark. When I finally got to talk to him he really didn’t want to sell any of them over the phone and didn’t want to talk about them either. He said they would be available at the Chicago show. The problem was I wasn’t doing the Chicago show this year. I was persistent and finally got to talk to Kim. Since we have many mutual friends I was able to convince her to sell me one. I told her I had already seen them and since they were only selling Females I just asked her to pick out a nice healthy one. She told me that to produce the other phase of them I would need a Bell Albino Male. I told her to add one to the price. $1600.00 later, here is my Enigma.
These first three pictures show the body, tail and head but unfortunately don’t really show the ghost like appearance of the head. It has darkness in the shading that doesn’t photograph. It is really something that needs to be seen in person to really appreciate. I know that almost sounds like a cliché these days but with this morph it really is true.
The next picture shows the incredible eye color of this form. What an incredible color it is. I guess the original post over on Fauna had pictures of the eyes but I don’t remember ever seeing them. That would have definitely impressed me. LOL
So now, what is the deal with these guys? I have no idea if there is a super of them, if the Albino is the Super, will they cross into other morphs? Kelli any thing you can add would be much appreciated. LOL If anybody else has any information on them please let’s hear it.
Well thanks in advance and I hope you enjoy the pictures.