My First Little Girl.

[GeckoBoy]

I've had her for about 4 months now. She eats fine, I was just wondering if I'm doing anything wrong.

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[Mel&Keith]

I believe many members have already advised you to remove the sand and use a paper or tile for substrate in this thread so I'm not exactly sure where you're going with this.

 

[david13]

looks great.

IMO, i would not use sand

 

[mynewturtle]

Click the search button on the top of the page and put 'Sand' in it. There is a lot of topics discussing the dangers of sand.

 

[Ccrashca069]

when the sand is gone and you use something else like tile, paper towel, carpet or something more safer then your set-up looks fine.

 

[mynewturtle]

Sorry for the off topic post.

Your avatar picture is not your. Unless Rebecca from Dragoon gecko gave you permission to use it you are not aloud to use it.

 

[Stevie]

If you use sand as a substrate, the use of calci sand is fine. I use playing sand though, because it is much cheaper, looks more natural and is better to dig in. If you want to suply them extra calcium, just put a bowl with calcium in the tank and it should be fine! Enjoy the gecko, she look great.

Greets,

Stevie

 

[vctkiller]

If you use sand as a substrate, the use of calci sand is fine. I use playing sand though, because it is much cheaper, looks more natural and is better to dig in. If you want to suply them extra calcium, just put a bowl with calcium in the tank and it should be fine! Enjoy the gecko, she look great.

Greets,

Stevie

I thought calci-sand is bad? Don't they sniff the calcium and lick the sand.

 

[Ccrashca069]

Playsand is safer then cali-sand.

 

[Stevie]

Calci sand is sold to be an extra suply of calcium. This is true, but it invites the geckos to eat the sand to get calcium. This doesn't have to be a problem when the gecko is healthy. Play sans is a bit smaller and less likely to cause problems in not so very healthy geckos. I bring up this subject, because I thought I saw you using calci sand in de picture. There are many breeders I know who use the calci sand and have no problems with it, but I just think it doesn't look that good in a terrarium...

Greets,

Stevie

 

[Mel&Keith]

Calci sand is sold to be an extra suply of calcium. This is true, but it invites the geckos to eat the sand to get calcium. This doesn't have to be a problem when the gecko is healthy. Play sans is a bit smaller and less likely to cause problems in not so very healthy geckos. I bring up this subject, because I thought I saw you using calci sand in de picture. There are many breeders I know who use the calci sand and have no problems with it, but I just think it doesn't look that good in a terrarium...

Greets,

Stevie

NO NO NO!!!!
Sorry, Stevie, most of your posts are dead on but ...

Geckos will eat the Calcium sand to get the Calcium and despite the label's claims that it's fully digestible it is NOT. Geckos ingest the sand (Calcium sand or play sand), get impacted and it can lead to death if it's not caught early by a vet. An un-edible substrate and a dish of real calcium is so much safer!

 

[Stevie]

That is why I stated that playing sand is saver; it's smaller and doesn't invite the gecko to eat sand. I do not agree with the fact that sand causes impaction. Geckos could get impacted with sand, but that is another story! Impaction with sand is in my opinion a symptom of something else, namely a problem with the digestive system. Calci sand is indeed not fully digestible, but as I stated before, a healthy gecko should be able to cope with that.

I never had any problems using sand, nor have other people I know. And when I read all the 'anti-sand posts' on the forum, it looks to me that very little people here actually do have bad experiences with sand, because everyone keeps their geckos on paper or tiles. I bet that more geckos worldwide died because of improper heating (to much of to little) or improper feeding than by impaction caused by sand. I bet many people don't know that leopardgeckos can reach an age of 25 years.There's a reason for that...

Everyone is free to have his opinion on the use of substrate. I hate newspaper maybe as much as many people here hate sand, but I respect the opinions of other people, because both systems work. Every system has it's own disadvantages; paper doesn't allow the gecko to perform its natural behavior, crickets eat of it (and thus the gecko) and so on and so on. I believe a forum has the function to suply objective info to people looking for info on different topics, so they can deside for themselves which system works for them. That's why I post my positive opinion on sand, so that other people can do with my info what they want.

Greets,

Stevie

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

If you use sand as a substrate, the use of calci sand is fine. I use playing sand though, because it is much cheaper, looks more natural and is better to dig in. If you want to suply them extra calcium, just put a bowl with calcium in the tank and it should be fine! Enjoy the gecko, she look great.

You are DEAD WRONG about any particulate substrate for leopard geckos! Not only that, but I am sick and tired of this 'sand as a substrate' debate. I am SO sick and tired of it, I feel like simply deleting any threads/posts that debate this issue.

If you ask for opinions and advise from the VERY experienced breeders here of GeckoForums, get the 'no sand' answer, and continue to use it... you are simpy going to be on your own about the consequences. It will be difficult to offer ANY sympathy for any of you that lose a gecko from impaction knowing full well what could happen when you do. The sympathy goes to the geckos that have to suffer and die needlessly.

Your avatar picture is not your. Unless Rebecca from Dragoon gecko gave you permission to use it you are not aloud to use it.

It is ILLEGAL and against the TOS of this website to use images anywhere on these forums without the express consent of the owner of those photos. I suggest you take down the image used without permission, and replace if with one of your own images. If you will not do this, then you will be subject to expulsion from this website.

There. Now I feel better.

 

[Mel&Keith]

Thank you Marcia, I felt that stating that we had already discussed the substrate topic in the thread that I linked to would stop the debate before it started but apparently not... That's why I wasn't sure if the original intent of this thread was to start a debate.

 

[Golden Gate Geckos]

If this thread was started for the purpose of debate, it will simply be closed. There have been PLENTY of debates on this topic, so I see no reason to have another one. GeckoForums.net has a plethora of information on this topic, so use the 'search' function and do some research. If YOUR specific question has not been answered, start a new thread... otherwise, read and learn.

 

[goReptiles]

I don't want to start or continue any debate, but I want to add that Calcium based sand clumps when wet, which means that it can clump when in the body.

Also, I used to house on sand and noticed sandy poop, which was when I changed to carpet and then tiles. But, that's just with pet geckos, not breeders, who are on paper towels.

I, also, wanted to mention to Stevie, that sand doesn't really allow for natural behaviors because they're natural habitat is hard rock versus loose sand.

That's it... Back to the original question from GeckoBoy- the gecko looks great. The only thing that I can reccommend changing is what everyone else has already stated... The sand.

 

[Pacific Gecko]

shes a cutie!

 

[Bodon]

Good looking gecko, but yes, any loose substrate can have a potential to be harmful, so if you want to risk it ok, but if not just switch it up.

 

[Dragoon Gecko]

Sorry for the off topic post.

Your avatar picture is not your. Unless Rebecca from Dragoon gecko gave you permission to use it you are not aloud to use it.

I was very sad to discover this :main_no:.

Thank you so much Marcia and mynewturtle for the quick reaction!

/Rebecca

 

[gojo440]

Oh and remove the staples form the inside of the half log hide.