My New Mack Snow Stripe Leo

[sausage]

i still think its a beautiful gecko shame about the regrown tail but that just makes them all diffrent

 

[Kaianuanu]

they are consider co-dominate. Trust your elders;D Just like hypos that are co-dominate. There are chances babies come out that way. I have NEVER seen a mack snow look like a super snow. Not even TUGs, co-dominate snows, or anything. And TUGs are alot whiter then macks. They say mack super snows BECAUSE there are more then just that one strain of snow, ya know? TUGs, co-dominate, macks, f one i cant think of right now. Its easier to say mack super snow then have people message "is the super snow from this or this line?" Yours looks like a super snow, i can say 99.999999% chance its a super snow and will make macks.

Dog strink- Eros is looking great so cute.

Im not sure about other morphs but mack snows have incomplete dominance, they are not co-dominant. Read this.

http://www.hobart.k12.in.us/jkousen/Biology/inccodom.htm

 

[Kaianuanu]

well i think the moist paper towel is working because hes working on a nice big single piece shed that's coming off beautifully.

 

[Dog Shrink]

they are consider co-dominate. Trust your elders;D Just like hypos that are co-dominate. There are chances babies come out that way. I have NEVER seen a mack snow look like a super snow. Not even TUGs, co-dominate snows, or anything. And TUGs are alot whiter then macks. They say mack super snows BECAUSE there are more then just that one strain of snow, ya know? TUGs, co-dominate, macks, f one i cant think of right now. Its easier to say mack super snow then have people message "is the super snow from this or this line?" Yours looks like a super snow, i can say 99.999999% chance its a super snow and will make macks.

Dog strink- Eros is looking great so cute.

Awww thank you... I've been working very hard with him to make sure everything is just right for his royal highness

 

[Kaianuanu]

Here's another great morph guide for you to paruse as well as the wiki link.

http://www.paulsagereptiles.com/LeopardGenetics.htm

"Mack Snow & Mack Super Snow are co-dominate morphs that reduce or eliminate the yellow and orange color seen on many Leopard Geckos. Mack Snows can be black and white, although some specimens show varying degrees of yellow after having been out-crossed. Mack Super Snows are characterized by their unique, high contrast black and white pattern and their solid black eyes. This pattern does not present itself on a hatchling Leopard Gecko, but usually develops within a month or so. Hatchling Super Snows are similar in appearance to blizzards. The Super form can be thought of as a recessive trait, since both parents must contribute a Mack Snow gene to produce Mack Super Snow offspring".

My Eros is a mack snow het bell het patternless. Here's his before and after pix.

Then:

and now:

*Pic taken with no flash under flourescent lights. Slightly oiled on his head and tail tip (stupid stuck shed )*

he sorta looks like a jungle mack snow. You mean a bell albino?

 

[Dog Shrink]

He is het for bell albino. He is Bold Mack snow 100% het Bell, poss het patty (patternless).

Momma:

Daddy:

the dad's a Texas giant Mack snow, his mom is a Bell albino.

*From his breeder*
"He is not an albino, albino's are recessive, and het for albino which he is, means that he carries the albino gene but does not or will not show it but if he is bred to another het albino or albino you will get babies that are Albino with Mack snow influence".

Hope this helps.

 

[fl_orchidslave]

Super snows are distinctively different than macks when they hatch from the egg. Super snow albinos are very different from super snows when they hatch. Often this is the time they are correctly identified for morph. Some mack snows are hard to identify as adults if you don't know their lineage. It takes time and experience to understand leopard gecko genetics. Everything can be read online but until you produce firsthand results, your understanding is all theory based on the proven experience of others.

 

[Gecko Euphoria]

Thought I'd post this on this thread too if there is anything I can help you with I would be glad too. In the info below will help you understand how you can tell you have a super snow by it's features which will save you a test breeding. I have some pics of mack stripes if you need them. A mack stripe would not have the solid black eyes!!!

Kaianuanu Hey I just read your posts and I think you may be a little confused on mack snows. If you breed two mack snows together or a super snow and a mack snow you can and will get Super snows!!! Super snows are Mack snows which carry two Alleles, a super version of the mack snow. I just thought I could be helpful to you since I have worked with this morph since they arrived on the scene. I can tell you that your gecko is not a striped mack snow it is 100% for sure a Mack super snow. Super snows can have gray shades between their spots in fact some of them display darker shades than others. The gecko in my avatar I use as my link is a baby mack super snow. The number one telling signal to me that your gecko is a mack super snow is the jet black eclipse eyes!!! Which are a tell tale sign of a mack super snow, thje only mack snows that have those jet black eyes other than super snows is a Mack snow eclipse. Super also have the striped spotted uniform pattern with the whitish base color. Instead of having a jungle pattern or normal banding like a normal mack snow < The thing super snows lack is the yellow coloration unless they have a paradox spot. A normal mack snow can have yellow coloration. Super snows do exist and with many years working with this morph yours in my opinion is most definietly a super snow!!! I hope this makes sense and doesn't offend you. I just thought I could help you better understand your gecko and the Mack snow genes. If you still need some confirmation I know www.VMSherp.com has a great step by step explanation and a book on how super snows are made and what they look like and how they genetically exist.

 

[Kaianuanu]

Thought I'd post this on this thread too if there is anything I can help you with I would be glad too. In the info below will help you understand how you can tell you have a super snow by it's features which will save you a test breeding. I have some pics of mack stripes if you need them. A mack stripe would not have the solid black eyes!!!

Kaianuanu Hey I just read your posts and I think you may be a little confused on mack snows. If you breed two mack snows together or a super snow and a mack snow you can and will get Super snows!!! Super snows are Mack snows which carry two Alleles, a super version of the mack snow. I just thought I could be helpful to you since I have worked with this morph since they arrived on the scene. I can tell you that your gecko is not a striped mack snow it is 100% for sure a Mack super snow. Super snows can have gray shades between their spots in fact some of them display darker shades than others. The gecko in my avatar I use as my link is a baby mack super snow. The number one telling signal to me that your gecko is a mack super snow is the jet black eclipse eyes!!! Which are a tell tale sign of a mack super snow, thje only mack snows that have those jet black eyes other than super snows is a Mack snow eclipse. Super also have the striped spotted uniform pattern with the whitish base color. Instead of having a jungle pattern or normal banding like a normal mack snow < The thing super snows lack is the yellow coloration unless they have a paradox spot. A normal mack snow can have yellow coloration. Super snows do exist and with many years working with this morph yours in my opinion is most definietly a super snow!!! I hope this makes sense and doesn't offend you. I just thought I could help you better understand your gecko and the Mack snow genes. If you still need some confirmation I know www.VMSherp.com has a great step by step explanation and a book on how super snows are made and what they look like and how they genetically exist.

from your experiences i turst your word. plus i have seen pics of super snows that have spotting patterns almost identical to mine on leopardgekowiki.com. Also, i believe you because i feel like eye color is a more telling indicator that spot pattern or coloring. But, i thought that when you breed a SS w/ a mack, you get half macks and half SS's. Also, if i were to breed my SS w/ a bell albino female like this first image, could i produce babies with a spot pattern like in the second image of StonedFish's mack? Or is this gecko just growing out of it's baby stripes? I am seeking the banding pattern of babies that does not foade away completely in adulthood.