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[Kevril007]

Please Help! I got 2 Gecko's Squishy we got in August and was doing well with him so we picked up Dori in October. Recently I noticed that Squishy's tail was getting thinner so I separated the two. I was hoping on advice of anything else to help get him back healthy again. also would like to find out what Morph they are.. Thanks!!

Dori:
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll151/faladila/NCM_0343.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll151/faladila/NCM_0345.jpg
Squishy:
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll151/faladila/NCM_0353.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll151/faladila/NCM_0356.jpg
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll151/faladila/NCM_0355.jpg

 

[acpart]

Welcome to GF.

Dorie may be a Mack snow, but it's hard to tell. Squishie looks like a high yellow. Good idea to separate them (they should have been quarantined for at least a month before trying them together anyway). Hopefully the problem is just bullying so Squishie should start to gain weight again. If not, a vet visit is recommended.

Aliza

 

[Kevril007]

How long would you suggest giving him to start gaining weight before taking him into the vet?

 

[Tongue Flicker]

Like aliza said, this is a personal space issue. Separating them and keeping them as usual will most likely bring the other one back into shape.

 

[KashMoneyExotics]

Yes separate them and see if squishy will gain his weight back to get skinny geckos to gain weight is to give them wax worms. PLEASE GO EASY ON THE WAX WORMS. Only give him like three a week. They're super addictive to geckos and are very high in fat. After he gains weight wax worms should only be an occasional treat like every month or two. Hope this helps and Squishy gains weight.

 

[katie_]

Thats not exactly true ^
Geckos dont NEED waxworms to gain weight. Stick with a healthy diet after they each have their own enclosure and the weight shouldnt be a problem to gain back. Id personally avoid waxworms.

 

[Kevril007]

We are doing a Cricket diet so far and thinking about adding meal worms to supplement. How many would you suggest giving them and how often.. Thank you for all of the advice! Dori is doing amazing now that we have her in her own tank. Squishy still hides more than not though. so hopefully with time he will be less shy

 

[DrCarrotTail]

If you give some more information on your husbandry folks may be better able to give more and better advice. If you fill this out: http://geckoforums.net/f130-health-medications/70912.htm it will help!

I'd triple check your temps and make sure they have secure hiding spots. Also give them access to food in an escape proof bowl (mealworms or dubia are great for this) 24/7. If the issue was bullying the gecko should just start eating and gaining weight with no other encouragement. I would weigh her weekly and if she doesn't gain weight in the next week or two I would get her to a vet.

 

[Kevril007]

About your leo:Squishy
- Sex: unknown
- Age & Weight unknown : 6grams
- How long have you owned your leo since August
- Where was he/she obtained (ex. Pet store, breeder, wild caught, friend)Pet store
A) Health/History
- How often do you handle your leo : usually daily but since we recently moved we only hold to take weight
- Is your leo acting any different today? If so how does he/she normally act which differs from now.: no difference
- Has he/she had any problems in the past, if so please describe. when we first got him he was not a fan of eating but since was normal.
B) Fecals
- Describe (look any different than normal) normal
- When was the last time he/she went today
C) Problem
- Please briefly describe the problem and how long it has been going on
thinning tail
Housing:
A) Enclosure
- Size : Exo Terra Glass Terrarium - 24 in. x 18 in. 12 in.
- Type (ex. glass tank): Exo Terra Glass Terrarium - 24 in. x 18 in. 12 in.
- Type of substrate: Terrarium Liner - Brown
- Hides, how many, what kind, 2 hides the first is a cave with the water attached to the top. the second is a log.
B) Heating
- Heat source heat lamp
- Cage temps (hot side, cool side) 86 hot side, 75 cool
- Method of regulating heat source
- What are you using to measure your temps
- Do you have any lights (describe) night heat lamp
C) Cage mates
- How many (males, females)
- Describe health, or previous problems
Describe Diet:
A) Typical diet
- What you're feeding (how often, how much) crickets
- How are you feeding (hand fed, left in dish, ect) left in cage
B) Supplements (describe how often)
- What vitamin/minerals are you using (list brands) reptivite with D3
- What are you gut loading food with: Fluker`s Complete Cricket Diet and then oranges and carrots sometimes

 

[DrCarrotTail]

Geckos really need under tank heat. The heat lamp will warm the enclosure but not give them the belly heat they need to digest their food. They need a spot on the ground that is closer to 90 degrees, 86 is a bit low. This temp is NOT the air temperature in the cage but the temperature of the ground so you'll need a probe thermometer to measure it. The terrarium liner does not absorb the heat from the lamp at all so I would assume this is the root of the issues you're having.

I would also make sure the cage is not in a super bright location. Indirect light from a table or desk lamp is sufficient and better than anything directly on or over their cage. Make sure she has hides that she can go into to get 100% out of the light (granola or mac and cheese boxes with a hole cut at the end work super well!) and a moist hide where she can relax in humidity.You mentioned you were giving herptivite with D3 which is not a product I am familiar with. Herptivite is a vitamin supplement and D3 usually comes with calcium. I would double check that you are giving her calcium and vitamins and give her a small dish of calcium in her cage 24/7.

I would also pick up some mealworms and an escape proof dish. This way you can keep the worms in her enclosure 24/7 and not worry about the demon-spawn crickets eating her toes or worse. For some of the geckos I've purchased that seemed nervous I counted 10 mealworms into their bowls and recounted every other day or so to make sure they were eating. I change the mealworms every 2-3 days as they usually stop moving around and begin to pupate (i.e. turn into beetles). 6 grams for a 3-4 month old leo is super small. If she is thin on top of that I would be very worried about her.

Best of luck and let us know how she does!

 

[Kevril007]

Added a rock/ hide that warms up and they seem to love it.. Squish has gained and back to running around like a nut. What is the average weight for a 3-4 month old leo?

 

[Gary Orner]

Welcome to GF.

Dorie may be a Mack snow, but it's hard to tell. Squishie looks like a high yellow. Good idea to separate them (they should have been quarantined for at least a month before trying them together anyway). Hopefully the problem is just bullying so Squishie should start to gain weight again. If not, a vet visit is recommended.

Aliza

I agree with this 100% was going to write a reply but this hit it on the head

 

[katie_]

Does this rock plug in? If so, ditch it. Reptiles have trouble feeling localized heat like that and can burn themselves on heat rocks. I really hope you listen to the advice others have given you on seperating them if youd like two healthy geckos...

 

[Kevril007]

no it doesn't plug in.. its a hide where it has 3 layers with a trail to each one... it seems to warm up pretty good. I plan on switching from the carpet to slate with the under the thank heater. have 2 tanks still with them separated just set up almost identical.